Upgrade System Discussion

Keep the same, upgrade can't be so easy, if no everyone will have +15 gear... Will be better if he will make better drop of stones from monsters or when you select broken card your upgrade can get down -1/-2 no more...
If you change more the game will be toooooooooooooooooo eaaaaaaasy...

Quote from Nanashi

As you already know badpiccolo the success rate was really low to begin with i was talking about 1/4 of increasing the current success rate, if you understand what i mean, many players quit because of the upgrade system,

The reason they "quit" was because the equipment was destroyed. But yeah..
My opinion is that equipments shouldnt be destroyed.. Maybe reset equipment back to +0 but not delete.

As you know, in dbo you have success rate, fail rate and a destroy rate.

im just gonna leave this here.

How to make +15 items by Nady93:

Rates are good, just remove the breaking part. It's really annoying to spend a lot of money on an item, and then break it.

Edit: I'd suggest to stop making polls. If we sum them up so far, people made the game so easy that a 4 year old can beat it.

Quote from Nanashi

As you already know badpiccolo the success rate was really low to begin with i was talking about 1/4 of increasing the current success rate, if you understand what i mean, many players quit because of the upgrade system,

Hard game is good game, where is sense to play if in 1 month all can get good upgrade with out hard work... As i say before don't change the succes rate just make better drop of stones (white too) from monsters. Also when you break your item you lose -1 / -2 of upgrade and you don't lose the item if you use white crystal.

its good that its hard to upgrade but its so easy to break your stuff instead of increasing the rate what about just decreasing the break rate?

Quote from KZane

its good that its hard to upgrade but its so easy to break your stuff instead of increasing the rate what about just decreasing the break rate?

Did you read what i say in my 2 latest posts?
-If don't read it: then do it again and analyze it.
-if you read it: then do it again and analyze it.

ur 1 guy srry but 1 guy doesnt make a deffrence

always upgrade for me was stupid. I bought item worth 250kk + stones to upgrade worth 200kk, and the item is burned, lost 450kk and for the money I could have armor and pants . For me should not destroy the item's, just like Daneos wrote downgrade to 0 .. upgrade will still be difficult but we will not lose as much money in the game .. It's just my opinion

Quote from Wszechmogacy

always upgrade for me was stupid. I bought item worth 250kk + stones to upgrade worth 200kk, and the item is burned, lost 450kk and for the money I could have armor and pants . For me should not destroy the item's, just like Daneos wrote downgrade to 0 .. upgrade will still be difficult but we will not lose as much money in the game .. It's just my opinion

+1! Maybe not to 0 if you are on +14 but maybe downgrade 6 levels..

SparkingX You got a point there.. Maybe to 0 without white stone and with white between -4 and max. -6..

Just make the white stones more accessible and the problem is solved. The real problem about upgrades were the brown/silver boxes only accessible by cashers, this was a big advantage for them...

I personally really liked the upgrade system. It was realy hard to get something to +10 or higher. It was a "high risk high win" gamble. If you would set the destroy rate to 0% or increase the succes rate it would be to easy to get a realy good equipment. Moreover with the old upgrade system you knew that there were always room for improvement and even to farm the items were fun.

make +15 is not impossible, but in old dbo tw, withouth cash (and cash prizes) u cant get far....

I think just can do this:

Example:
Upgraded weapon +8
+ Purple Stone :
- Success (+9 or +10 or +11)
- Failed = Dont do anything, just loose the stone...
- Broken = -3 or -2 or -1 , but dont broke item...

+ Purple & White Stone :
- Success (+9 or +10 or +11)
- Failed = Dont do anything, just loose the stones...
- Broken = -0 , but dont broke item...

Items should disappear after break, but there are white stones to prevent it.
Downgrade with using white stones should be changed (it was -2~6 for weapons and 2~4(?) for armors) downgraded by 6 is nearly like break so...,
It should be something like 1~3 downgrade if break, and white stone should be dropable.

Green and purple stone should be fixed, as you remember it gives you chance to upgrade items +1, +2 or +3, mostly it was +1, rates should be like:
50% +1
30% +2
20% +3

Upgrade/Fail/Break chance have to be fixed, 3 card suggest that you should have 33,(3)% chance for each option, but it was not 33%.

Keep system same, but just fix rates.

@Joath
0 downgrade with white stone is not good idea imo, in that case i could have all my characters at FULL+15 sets. No downgrade = too easy.

Quote from Jotah

make +15 is not impossible, but in old dbo tw, withouth cash (and cash prizes) u cant get far....

I think just can do this:

Example:
Upgraded weapon +8
+ Purple Stone :
- Success (+9 or +10 or +11)
- Failed = Dont do anything, just loose the stone...
- Broken = -3 or -2 or -1 , but dont broke item...

+ Purple & White Stone :
- Success (+9 or +10 or +11)
- Failed = Dont do anything, just loose the stones...
- Broken = -0 , but dont broke item...

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i agree with you, this is good idea