I don't understand why you guys come up with all this stuff just to stop the turtle buff. Feel like you guys just hate turtle xD
But ok, anyways, if you don't want the turtle (that its sole purpose was to actually be the best at PvE like DreameR said) to be what it was meant to be. Deleting the whole purpose of taking turtle in a party or even creating one in DBO, good job guys. this feels balanced now :D.
The problem is PvP if turtle gets buffed it will be broken in pvp.
So if daneos make doing damage different on mobs and player that you deal more damage on mobs but on player weaker.
Then i agree with that.