Game balance broke

  • To begin i don t want any hatred on my thread , im sur you can talk with a good bhavior.

    I agree with some points, but im also bored when fighter who have worse gear than me stun me and he resist my stun, when i miss and he one shot me because he is lucky, or when sk crit me x2 on the same rank from hit his '' critical hit rate 16 '' and i don t cont crit him once with my 55 critical hit rate no because he have better gear or "skill" this is not how game should be, thanks for your answers the good ones and bad, maybe we will see more balance patch in future i just want this game to sirvive and be better.

  • To begin i don t want any hatred on my thread , im sur you can talk with a good bhavior.

    I agree with some points, but im also bored when fighter who have worse gear than me stun me and he resist my stun, when i miss and he one shot me because he is lucky, or when sk crit me x2 on the same rank from hit his '' critical hit rate 16 '' and i don t cont crit him once with my 55 critical hit rate no because he have better gear or "skill" this is not how game should be, thanks for your answers the good ones and bad, maybe we will see more balance patch in future i just want this game to sirvive and be better.

    Sorry to heard that!.. i know what it feels too friend >.< ... maybe we had a bit bad luck... :(, i guess? 0.o

    and yes.. it will!! :) in my opinion.. DBOG is improving, we have weekly updates, and a very supportive community, dev/staff!, so we can expect the needed fixes/balance as soon as possible!

    xD sadly Daneos is the one and only developer in the team. Mateo is dead (he left the team over 1 year ago)

    Oops!! , you are right, thanks! :), i was confused because i saw the new about mateos as dev weeks ago i don't know how/why 0.o

  • Over 90% of this game is RNG based. Most other games you need skill and strategy to play while dbog is like the opposite side of the coin when comparing to the rest.


    Hit and dodge rate is random no matter how much you increase it.

    Matches in PvP ends way to quickly because the winner mostly depends on the one with the better upgraded gears and the one better effect on their gears.

    All classes are not evenly balanced against each other. Namek with their OP LP and defence mostly win against every other class so all class except nameks should have their LP increased to balance the classes better or make the defence on gears for all classes the same.

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    Jr Master of FusionFall

    11_small.pngFighter lvl60: DangerLord54

    18_small.pngTurtle lvl44: RangerLord94

    20_small.pngPoko Priest lvl17: SpeedLord24

    19_small.pngShadow Knight lvl1: TankLord14

  • All of you poor souls who think that pvp can be fixed by adjusting some numbers.

    This game is just fundementally broken, so stop suggesting your delusional ideas about nerfing the damage or buffing defense.

    There are simply way too many dumb mechanics like RNG where it doesnt belong (dodge, crit, resist rate), 0 counterplay stunlock and so many others, the list just goes on and on.
    But one of the main reasons why you cant fix pvp with numbers is because of the absolutely atrocious accessorie system. You either have the appropriate set of accessories equipped so that the cc gets completely neutralized or you get stunned for an eternity. This game was so obviously designed as a cash grab and not as a balanced, long lasting mmo.

    But the little balance that they tried to achieve was still more enjoyable than all of your "nerf damage" crap because it kind of worked in its own way.

    And on a side note: you will never achieve any fairness in this game for all the people who dont have ideal gear so there is simply no point in trying to cater to them. Every community always cries about shit and when devs listen to casuals the game goes to shit.

  • And I am calling it right now that the DBOG staff will just ignore this and think it was made out of frustration because what would you expect of them. They ignore 2 good thread from both Badpicollo and Skedar so if they want to make this game die again then I won't be surprised because no matter what you do, this game will die because everything has a limit including dbog and what Daneos is doing and making improvements is just him trying to dely the ineverable just like any other game because nothing will last forever.

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    Jr Master of FusionFall

    11_small.pngFighter lvl60: DangerLord54

    18_small.pngTurtle lvl44: RangerLord94

    20_small.pngPoko Priest lvl17: SpeedLord24

    19_small.pngShadow Knight lvl1: TankLord14

  • league
    and crits only deal high dmg on squishy targets. noobs like you think this is unhealthy but unlike other games DBO has a counter to crits

    which is called anticrit. have fun killing sk, which apparently is the strongest class looking at pvp. nerfing crits will just buff them more and cause a tank meta

    so just stop

    So, first off. Stop trying to sound like you know stuff because you play League, a MOBA, and shit game from my perspective. And that's my opinion. Things that are obviously/partially NOT right need to be heard. Whether they're stupid or not. You telling someone to delete their account is just pathetic. I'd move on if you gave some proof right away as to why he should delete his account (And I know this was meant as an insult.) Enter the conversation smarter next time. Leaving the game means it's trash, people who actually want change, is also garbage, and I'm still not seeing people giving real and fair advice to the team.

  • this is the reason the staff doesnt listen to people

    bye
    :sleeping:

    No, it's not. They should review every thread. I could post a porn link here, and if it's not deleted or even reported. That means staff isn't paying us any mind. It's not the player's fault for being frustrated. It's the team's fault, but change takes time. But announcing that something will be changed would be good to know. I heard some staff members got pissed off at Daneos for making his own decisions. So they should know how we feel in some way.

  • So, first off. Stop trying to sound like you know stuff because you play League, a MOBA, and shit game from my perspective. And that's my opinion. Things that are obviously/partially NOT right need to be heard. Whether they're stupid or not. You telling someone to delete their account is just pathetic. I'd move on if you gave some proof right away as to why he should delete his account (And I know this was meant as an insult.) Enter the conversation smarter next time. Leaving the game means it's trash, people who actually want change, is also garbage, and I'm still not seeing people giving real and fair advice to the team.

    Every single week before maintenance people like skedar and bad picollo make good thread to make this game better and more friendly, but the staff never answer the first time who daneos replied bad picollo thread he saied he will give the statement ponts in some hour , been 5 days i think he forgot xd

  • Hi there dbog community,



    I have had a chance to read this thread up to this point and feel its appropriate to respond.


    Shotaroo is voicing his concerns for the game and how he and others believe the game should be handled. Shotaroo maybe right or wrong it depends on your opinion. Negative constructive feed back like this is welcomed as its all about making dbog the best it can be :)


    Changes to dbo like other games require time and testing before making it perfect.


    Remember we are not a professional team like other games for instance like league of legends, which has many developers and staff members to monitor the status of the forums, make quick changes and apply them with unparallel percision.


    this is a private server so often we take longer than the main stream games to react and apply good ideas and changes due to our smaller size and limit capablities.


    Im sorry to those who feel like we are not responding in a quicker manner. I will admit I havent been as active on the forums as I have in the past due to real life issues.etc




    regards boxbox

  • this is a private server so often we take longer than the main stream games to react and apply good ideas and changes due to our smaller size and limit capablities.

    https://www.warmane.com/


    this is how to make a privat server.


    daneos and his team is a bunch of nonprofessionals and he dont even play the game he have just no idea about this gameplay.


    All of you poor souls who think that pvp can be fixed by adjusting some numbers.

    This game is just fundementally broken, so stop suggesting your delusional ideas about nerfing the damage or buffing defense.

    There are simply way too many dumb mechanics like RNG where it doesnt belong (dodge, crit, resist rate), 0 counterplay stunlock and so many others, the list just goes on and on.
    But one of the main reasons why you cant fix pvp with numbers is because of the absolutely atrocious accessorie system. You either have the appropriate set of accessories equipped so that the cc gets completely neutralized or you get stunned for an eternity. This game was so obviously designed as a cash grab and not as a balanced, long lasting mmo.

    But the little balance that they tried to achieve was still more enjoyable than all of your "nerf damage" crap because it kind of worked in its own way.

    And on a side note: you will never achieve any fairness in this game for all the people who dont have ideal gear so there is simply no point in trying to cater to them. Every community always cries about shit and when devs listen to casuals the game goes to shit.

    yeah youre right this pvp will never be good and i said it in my post too, changing numbers would be just the first step, in theory it would be possible to balance it way better if he dont work on anything else, but yeah as you said its designed as a cash grab and he just do it for the money aswell.

  • The buff change system was the best pvm update we had so far dreamer. Your welcome

    That's your opinion there are alot of people who did not like the update.

    I was not talking about a specific update but thanks for your input.


    I don't know if you realise it but buffers are way to OP right now in PVE (Tank, strongest aoe dmg ingame by far, same base dmg as turtle so also good as dps with right build) ... That's another story.

  • That's your opinion there are alot of people who did not like the update.

    I was not talking about a specific update but thanks for your input.


    I don't know if you realise it but buffers are way to OP right now in PVE (Tank, strongest aoe dmg ingame by far, same base dmg as turtle so also good as dps with right build) ... That's another story.

    At least now they can farm and don't need alt accounts like in 70 cap DBOTW.

  • That's your opinion there are alot of people who did not like the update.

    I was not talking about a specific update but thanks for your input.


    I don't know if you realise it but buffers are way to OP right now in PVE (Tank, strongest aoe dmg ingame by far, same base dmg as turtle so also good as dps with right build) ... That's another story.

    thats your opinion, but i have yet to see a ultima or cheff outdmg a good turtle in boss battles

    And in the time i do firespin, you can do aoe stun/debuff, 2x turtle aoe kames, disc and scattershot, wich are all instant dmg and you dont have exhaust.

  • thats your opinion, but i have yet to see a ultima or cheff outdmg a good turtle in boss battles

    And in the time i do firespin, you can do aoe stun/debuff, 2x turtle aoe kames, disc and scattershot, wich are all instant dmg and you dont have exhaust.

    Hmm firespin does 2-4k dmg per tick 3 ticks per second = 6-12k dmg per second

    15k - 30k in 2.5 sec with an exhaust duration of around 5 secs (spamable if you do it right)


    Super kame does 20-30k dmg with a cast time of 1.5 sec and an animation time of around 1 sec = 2.5 sec

    30k in 2.5 sec with a cd of 18 sec

    Giant Kame around 30-35k cast time 1 sec

    2 sec = 30k dmg cdr of 54 sec

    :/


    Turtle stun? When did you need it in pve? Never...

    Same for disc also Scatter Shot is pretty much useless.


    Yes with Ultimate you are exhausted but you don't have cdr with the right build but still max dmg + you are tanky af and are immune against skills


    Grandma spin even has a duration of 26 secs...


    How to spot somebody who doesn't know what he's talking about:

    Step 1. Read this

    I don't know what I'm talking about? I think our game progress says everything.



    Also just a side information why does tanks / buffers have much more base lp than dmg dealers while having same base dmg stats?

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