hello, i think i can relate to what you say and i believe you are being honest .
how about everyone getting their current level back of the time of announcement of this poll instead of "level 30 up" ? along with buffs ?
promise is a promise the leader of the project announced no more wipes its wise& just to try to stick to your words especially if you are in control of a project with so many people involved in it, even the people in favor of a wipe even if not all a lot of them wont have to trust any more promises given and with no justice and trust nothing lasts.( if it was really necessary it could've been approached better)
i can understand why might Daneos think of a wipe along with alot of players but it could've been approached better than this, Daneos himself should have been the one making this thread along with big apology and list the reasons why he thinks that this wipe is necessary even though he promised not to do so anymore also listen to the reasonable reasons that the people against the wipe would like to get to be content , "the least is keeping character levels & buffs" i mean i can understand why deleting all items helps but how the hell resetting those helps in anyway?
the community doesnt need to be divided offer solutions for those who doesnt want a wipe for real and logical reasons and instead of breaking the faith in you of half of your community you can instead unite them by taking simple actions whilst performing the wipe.
that if Daneos really needed to do a wipe but if he is doing this only because he is listening to a handful number of his community who wants a wipe hence the poll to vote , still he should take in the consideration of his promise and still listen to the reasonable reasons of both sides and perform a wipe that makes both sides content
i have voted for yes but i dont want that to be selfish( to have equal grounds with everyone once again) and on account of all the hours spent by those who disagree, people like hsperer have some very real logical reasons so i believe with a complete wipe (except keeping character level and buffs) will make both sides mostly content.
Except the reason he said that was because at the time, there were no more planned wipes because the problems the server is facing now were not forseen back then. Now, things have changed. Now, a wipe is necessary. And I'm getting tired of people saying "Oh, just give us back our levels and stuff". That's not how a wipe works, so deal with it or find another game to play.
Secondly, everyone has this notion that it's possible to go through every account and just ban the cheaters or remove the cheated/botted gear. It's not. Feel free to go code your own server with a way to do so if you think otherwise, as that's the ONLY way you're going to prove them wrong on this.
Lastly, everyone needs to stop acting entitled. Games go through wipe periods when there's a need to fix the balance for everyone. Is it fair to everyone? Yes. Including those who worked hard to get where they are before the wipe. You know why? Because they know how to get to where they were WITHOUT cheating or exploits. And they can do it again.
Yes, it sucks to lose everything you worked hard for. And yes, there's no way to know currently if another wipe is needed down the road due to new exploits that may be discovered. But that's just how it is.
One more thing, it was specifically stated that system changes were another reason for the wipe. If these changes affect character balance through class or stat changes, it is possible these won't reflect to currently existing characters, meaning either existing characters will be too strong for the new changes, or too weak to stand up to the new changes. And the tediusness it would be to go through every single account and every single character changing them to reflect the new changes both takes away from time needed to further develop the server AND prevents current players from actually learning and using the new changes on a trial and error basis by training back up from scratch.
The point is, the wipe is needed, and no amount of entitled attitudes or baseless arguements over not having the time to retrain is going to change it.