Posts by 2pro4u

Quote from TheProdige

yeeah cool but cc armor is a problem we need to remouve them ..

for mee , this cap should end the next week it have been long enough and borring enough -_- ,

back to the theard !

simple as hell to make game fair for all here u go :

make brown boxes easier to get for non casher's

add the brown boxes x50 at the wagu

make brown boxes from wagu binded

we all are satisfed

daneos will get much revenue for server

brown boxes are no more a currency

casher's can still get monney from the stat changes

non casher's can still compet in the gam

if u see any problem on this try to bee clear

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that is fine except the part of adding 50 brown boxes at the wagu. Like Tactikill mentioned, we are tired of gambling for boxes and spending hundreds to not get anything. Just add them directly in cash shop and at the same time daneos can also lower the gold coins needed to 1 instead of 2 since this is excessive.Look at it this way, cashers should be able to obtain the stuff without farming since they are basically paying to spend less time gather items. Right now, they can't do that with brown boxes, they can attempt to get brown boxes but they are not guaranteed. See what I mean? Say that Daneos lowers the amount of boxes to 1 and makes the quest stackable, free2play will finally have a consistent way to have boxes, and I am not against that, but what about cashers? They still have to GAMBLE to obtain anything worth their money, which obviously is not fair. To sum up, Daneos should:

1. Add boxes to cash shop for DIRECT purchase at an affordable price

AND

2. Make boxes 1 gold coin.

AND

3. Make the quests stackable

AND

4. Let majins appear during the boss event as well

This will make both free2play and cashers satisfied. Now I know there will always be people targetting me directly and saying "oh if that happens you will be too op" And my response to you is, don't focus on me, focus on the other 99.999999% of the community........

Quote from kinswkk

hello all, nice to see you here.

Actually I think DBOG is much different with retail. So might not able to compare with. I found some different in swordsman.

as u knows, many skills of Swordsman/karma would have back attacks +50% bonus.

But I am not sure if you also aware that. In the past, when using a crit-damage weapons, the weapon statics would also calculate in back attack.

For e.g. My glove and sword is 25% + 25% curt damage. When using flash slash sword to attack the back of the opponent, the calculation should be *(150%+25%+25%) without crit. So that swordsman can have a stable dps and don't rely on luck and crit.

I am not sure if it identify as bug here or setting changed.

However for this setting, the swordsman are more similar to fighter but not good as fighter at many area.

Kins

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this wouldn't make sense, %crit damage are only applied to critics. It's literally in the name, "increase crit dmg by X%". Making it like you suggested would just break the class lol, they'd be 1 shotting people no crit.

yeah what's up with the channels and why hasn't this been fixed already, it's been a couple of days like this.

I am still waiting for someone from the staff to reply to this....

Quote from kidunseen

Well if only do the quest well yeah. just farm for a week use all silver coins and sell loot and buy boxes overtime with the zeni. Have fun and enjoy the grind if you get 30 boxes a day in a week u can pretty much get max earrings then what? make it hard to earn things give players reason to keep playing.

okay 1, this is not true. I've spent hundreds of boxes on items and still havent gotten a good stat(not talking about max just something good). And 2. Boxes arent just needed for earrings, they are needed for everything now..... neckalces, jackets, pants, boots, weapons, gloves, everything...

Quote from kidunseen

brown boxes fine how it is atm, silver box from golden chest

lol what?????? yes it's definitely okay to get 1 box a day.........

This is my current log

Quote from Alex Perez Size

por que daneos no poner ala venta zenis ya empienza como dbo tw ay paginas xinas que por 15 euros me dan 50 millones mejor que venda daneos zenis y el dinero sea para mantener el juego

nunca he visto esas paginas. Ademas comprar zeni va contra las reglas.

bro I created this on "

• Oct 8th 2017"

the situation will only be getting worse if boxes are not reintroduced...

why hasn't anyone from the staff replied yet... Daneos  Tempest  Hardlock  Aru  Celestial Titania  GokUsama  Box-head(boxbox)  Kirito

Quote from Tactikill

What 2pro is asking for will actually inadvertently benefit the game by reducing inflation.

However what he wants as probably the biggest or one of the biggest cashers on this game is to put an even bigger gap between his already full +13 gear and the rest.

It definitely will benefit everyone including me of course or I wouldnt be asking for it in the first place...

P.S. why worry about me when u got 10000000 other players... (hyperbole to prove my point)

At the very least, Daneos should revert the boxes rate and maximum amount to what it was before in the wagu machine ... I dont even know why it was nerfed. At least before you had some real chance of getting boxes and the maximum was 50, not 30. Right now you could literally spend hundreds, and cashing isnt even worth it anymore... (Ikr? This must sound weird coming from someone like me) Daneos  Tempest  Hardlock  TheProdige  Astin

Quote from Astin

Guys im a f2p but you people are so delusional.

You think there is something stopping him from doing everything you said ?>

Making brown boxes will just let f2p taste a bit of them 2,via buying from them.

He is still getting more boxes than you will ever dream,is just if they are on sale or more at the cash shop,we will get some 2.

Stop being so self centred and hating when you are basicaly punching your own face without realising.

Exactly I don't get some of these people, they are just like "oh cashers will get all the boxes they want and blah blah" without realizing that at the same time they can sell more boxes to everyone else, which means the prices will drop and boxes will become a lot more accessible to f2p players AND cashers who can only cash say once a month.

Quote from Astin

Sir, what you just asked is very out of topic and i dont wanna get warned so if you are intrested in my knowlednge please ask me in private or something, this post is not about sk or fighter is about brown boxes being extinct.

Now on topic:

I'll make a short summary about what this thread is about in case a mod decides to peak at some posts.

There is no way we can procure brown boxes.If you farm all day for devil coins(which trust me is hard af and boring)you wont even get near the amount of boxes needed for 1 item to have a good stat.And if you farm all day for Dark devil coins you wont have time to farm tmq/ud/ccbd, So no items or dogiballs for you either.

If you cash again there is a slight possibility to get a brown box,thus resulting in a more waste of money.

I have come up with 2 general solutions.

The p2w solution:-Implement the second wagu machine back. A wagu machine without dogis. A where boxes could be procured more easly(and others).

The f2p solution :-Add brown boxes as a reward for finishing tmq/ud and not dieing or making under a certain time period.

Or :-Make brown boxes to drop from monsters: Ultras or even normal monsters,with a low drop rate but still a drop rate.( even make them purchasable with mudosa points as pvp is very unrewarding compared to the ammount of time and items needed for it to be even succesful)

Conclusion; I dont care how,or why,just implement more boxes in the game because, there are noone and the aviability for f2p is nearly 0.

Regards,

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I am glad that we finally agree on something :). Anyways why are these people arguing about an earring when this thread is about equipment boxes, SMH.

Back on topic,

I think my idea of making equipment boxes purchasable for 24hrs as an event once a month would be a good idea..

Adding a 2nd wagu machine without dogis wouldn't be a bad idea I guess but rng on top of rng? RNG to get boxes and RNG to get good stat? If they made it it will probably be 99% chance to get potions and 1% for boxes lol. I'd rather have them implement what I stated before so you can buy them directly but only for 24hrs once a month.

After reading most of your comments, I have come up with another possible solution. Daneos could add Brown Boxes to cash shop as an event once per month only lasting 24hrs. This will increase the amount of boxes in the server and they will be depleting again until the next event 1 month later. I think this will be a great idea since the amount of boxes only increase temporarily and decrease over time afterwards. That will also mean that the price of brown boxes will fluctuate over time and everyone will know when the best time to buy is (during the event due to the massive supply) and when the best time to sell is (3 weeks after the event or so since they are nearly depleted), and adjust accordingly.

Quote from Astin

then that is no solution at al since a f2p will have an ever harder time against cashers right ?

I'd say make a limit to how much brown boxes a person which has an account max level( for example to not spam lv 1 chars) can actually get from cash shop.

i don't really know the number of the limit but that would be more than fair,helping both sides

Since i always said, i dont mind the game to be flooded with brown boxes,since if a casher spends the boxes to get perfect stats then ill use boxes(less) to get a near perfect stat.

Example: casher will spend 200 boxes to get 20 con in a random item.

f2p will spend 30 boxes to get 18 con in a random item.

Rather than now:

Example ; casher will spend 100 boxes to get 19-20 con in a random item

f2p will do nothing because he has no freakin brown boxes and even if he manages to get 5-10 they will result in nothing.

So which option do you think is more viable where the game lacks brown boxes or where is flooded by it ?

Now i would LOVE to see brown boxes removed,but that is no longer possible only if game get's reseted or all brown boxes deleted( not an option,will be unfair)

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Well then you could always just limit the amount a single person could buy per week. Example 50 per week or something along those lines. The fact is that brown boxes are being used at a much faster rate that they are being replenished( since the wagu drops are so rare). If this keeps up, for 70 cap we will all be forced to play endlessly and do world bosses to buy each box for 2 gold coins and 500k. And then pray to jesus that you get the stat you wanted with 1 box when u couldnt not get it with 200 before....

Okay so many of you are against my idea because of the fact that you could sell them and they would become the game’s main currency. I have the solution for that, just make the boxes you buy from cash shop binded, simple...

Quote from EchoSon

Hmm, I'm gonna disagree with this one. Besides, there's plenty of reasons boxes were cheaper earlier.

1: People didn't have zeni PERIOD to buy them for 2kk each. I got my Halo and Wings for about 1kk back at the lvl29 cap, now I'd have to shell out 7kk. Zeni was worth more back then.
2: There was a zeni duplication glitch, and while people got banned for it, I doubt nobody got away with it.

3: Brown boxes will ALWAYS be wanted, just like U70 stones. Demand means prices won't go down as much. Why settle for 600k zeni on something as valueable as a brown box? You can get 21 CON on CC armor with that, or 9 props on earrings, things you could never get otherwise.

You might have taken max stats on any item you want for granted. If this world needs more brown/silver boxes, then it should be by World Boss Event. The Wagu's brown boxes are on a generous enough level to warrant donating as is.

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Are we even talking about the same word here or do you not have a clue about what the word generous means.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generous

Quote from EchoSon

You might have taken max stats on any item you want for granted. If this world needs more brown/silver boxes, then it should be by World Boss Event. The Wagu's brown boxes are on a generous enough level to warrant donating as is.

what? Are you serious with this statement? After the cash shop nerf, I have spent up to $400 at once in several occassions in wagu coins obtaining from 0-30 boxes. And you are telling me that’s generous? Before the nerf, the wagu was giving a good amount of boxes( up to 50) and way more frequently. Now the max is 30 and it is rare to get them. Agains it’s all rng, but the rates are very low now so this is not true.