Posts by MasterW15

    To me it makes a lot of sense for Dexterity and Focus to give more E/P damage and crit rate, along with Dodge rate and Hit rate.


    If you have more dexterity is normal you would increase the efficiency of your punches, the same with a big focus, you would increase the concentration of your attacks and make them more powerful. It seems pretty obvious to be honest that ''Dexterity'' isn't just a ''dodge attribute'', the name says it all, you are more dexterous.


    Also, there's even a skill in the SM skill tree that is called ''Focused Kamehameha'', because it was more focused, and this gave it a lot more damage than a Concentrated Kamehameha, and why this? Well, because SM has A LOT of Focus. Now this really doesn't make any sense because having more Focus doesn't give you more damage in your energy attacks anymore.

    It made a lot of sense to me that they give more damage and critical rate, because if you are so dexterous or focused it would be normal to be able to make better hits (increasing the damage) and also manage to get bigger hits (critical hits) more often.


    Having a more powerful Soul doesn't give you more concentration in the skill power to manage stronger energy attacks, and having more Strength doesn't make you hit better, any real life fighter would know this (even non-fighters). I don't know where this mindset that it didn't make any sense came from, it's just common sense.


    Now in a personal note, this also completely ruins my energy swordsman build, which his high Focus gave him a big boost in the energy attack, that, yes, it can work in both PvE and PvP, that's the entire point of why they gave SM an entire chain of energy attacks and not only physical, it was intended to be used like that too, and now it's all just ruined... cry.gif


    I think the game should just stick like the old DBO, and if they want to make these changes they should create a poll.

    Didn't say they weren't. I said XV2 is a PS4 exclusive in Japan. Meaning there is no Japanese PC version of the game. Meaning that they would be spending extra money to host a beta for a platform, that they aren't even supporting in their own country. Meaning that, as a business, it's a bad decision to throw away money that they may not make back.

    Sorry, I edited my post while you were writing this and expanded it a little bit, what I meant is that this beta is going to be released for the West too, and here they are releasing again for PC and XBox because they did well here. So they would make that money back.
    Japanese release is a different thing.

    Really unfair.
    Doesn't matter how much they get from the PS players, they would get A TON less if all PC and xbox gamers suddenly decided to not get XV2.


    Doubtful. XV1 sold so poorly on Xbox consoles and PC, that XV2 is a PS4 exclusive in Japan. Be lucky to get an X1 beta in western countries, let alone a PC one.


    They are releasing the game in PC and XBox again here in the West for a reason. Japan is another story.

    Hey yo, I never had the chance to finish leveling my Dark Warrior, are Cyclone, Energy Siege and Dragon's Punishment really enough to kill all your enemies at level 70?
    And wouldn't Draconic Curse be more useful at level 4 when talking about PvE, since it gives an AoE effect?
    And upgrading Powerful Roar increases the amount of mobs that the taunt affects, the distance, and the duration, wouldn't have it maxed out be better in PvE too?

    about fighter i would do concentration on 1 sp and max out Solar fare. Having 5 sp on COncentration is not rlly needed imo

    Hey, the faster you can use your skills again the better, isn't?

    You sure about that I tried it once going my own way and it was not worth it knowing once I step into the plat I got demolish, it's only fun in pve but pvp nope nope and nope and nope and nope orrrrrrr go out all fun till level 70 then use a Green Book Reset and get a serious build :)

    That's also a possibility, I planned to just use him to farm after hitting Level 70, since Focused Kamehameha and Burning Attack are just too cool to not use.

    Woah, you truly gonna be a Swordsman, don't ya?


    This is one of my builds, I call it the ''I wanted to be a Spiritualist, but I like my sword more''


    (I'm 100% sure I had more SP availables in that build after that distribution, but I don't know what happened and now I can't have Kaio-Ken on it unless I sacrifice some Hit Rate, lol)

    If you don't think about those humans like they are you, me or anyone, everything can be possible.
    They are trained with a power a that simple human can't tap into by simply existing.
    Krilin and Goku were matched as kids. They had the same training, he was only left behind after the powers that came from hell's butt started being a thing. I bet he would've been a lot stronger if he kept training with Goku. I strongly believe he could've reached the lvl of a ssj1 by the end of the Cell saga (I'm being a tad generous tho)



    In the game they are as capable as anyone else, not to mention that Shenron was asked to only bring anyone capable of dealing with the story. As far as we know these humans could be from the year 10000 while the others being stronger could be from a much earlier time.

    Well, the level of a normal SSJ by the Cell saga is possible if we consider Olibu from the Other World Tournament filler arc, though I think he was training since more than 10.000 years, so that's probably the ultimate potential of a normal Human.


    It's true that they asked Shenron for this warrior, but it couldn't be from another time because it looks like Shenron can't modify time, though this could also have been changed in XV. This also makes the existance of playable full blooded Saiyans a mystery, since the last ones were Goku and Vegeta, and they are probably already dead by Age 850 if they followed the DBO backstory, and even if they didn't it's still possible, and they couldn't be from U6 because Shenron power is limited by U7. They are never stated to be Humans with Saiyan blood either.


    But I guess you are right, though I still think it's kinda unecessary to have them playable, but that's just my opinion.

    We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this. Goku was a human for all intents and purposes back in Dragon Ball. The idea of Saiyans didn't pop up till much later. The whole idea of Krillin and Tien's character goes to show that while their power is lacking, there is something to be said for the 'heart' a human fighter has. They are what kept the series grounded, and if immersion is important to you, you should be able to understand that.
    But I digress. I think their awakening is awesome, and the idea of giving the most OP race in XV, a speed AND reach upgrade with their awakening.. is amazing. Though it also now scares me thinking what they must have done to nerf them to make these buffs balanced. Anyone playing VX seriously knows, humans are OP, and any character with a staff is possibly the most dangerous thing to exist.

    Actually, I doubt Goku was ever intended to be a Human, Toriyama already alluded back in the start of Dragon Ball in a constant manner that he wasn't a Human, he still didn't thought about Saiyans, but he surely wasn't a Human. Actually, in the anime, if I remember correctly, Sergeant Metallic scanned kid Goku as having an ''alien'' look, back in the Red Ribbon saga.


    I know they can be good fighters and become really strong, but not strong enough, they are SERIOUSLY limited by their ''power cap''. Ingame they can fight Beerus, but in the series that wouldn't be possible even if they are eternally young/immortal and trained for millions of years. They can support with the help of some skills still, but after a point they just lack in power and can't be a main hero anymore.


    And yes, their ''awakening'' looks epic, I just think everyone should be able to use it, since you only need a pure heart to use it, and that makes me sad, like, that means all Nameks, Saiyans, Freeza's race members and even Majins aren't pure :dsad:
    But for some weird reason, all the perverted Humans like Roshi or Krillin are pure. :dtitter:
    TIME TO PLAY A HUMAN I GUESS. :dlol:

    You must not have played competitively. Humans are the most OP race in XV, and are more often than not the winners of tournaments.

    I never said they are irrelevant to the game, I said they are an irrelevant race, their only uniqueness are their stats and their fighting styles, and while their fighting styles are nice they could give them to any other race, and the stats are invisibile.
    They shouldn't get a transformation, they shouldn't be playable at all and give those stats to anyone else if they want, or not give them at all.



    Geez why does everyone assume Earthlings need some form of transformation? Also we need to remember that they're called "Awakening" in this game. For all we know, you're going to have to earn the big ones.


    Seriously give Dimps credit for coming with an Awakening for Earthlings that's both unique and creative. Hell it even reminds me of the Z-Soul "Transforming doesn't fix everything you know."

    I'm not saying they need a transformation, but some logical reason for them to keep the scales when fighting so strong adversaries, I'm not saying a videogame needs logic either, but just to put an explanation as to how a mere Human can compete with all the other races, or the oh-so-powerful God of Destruction Beerus, just stuff like that.


    We know Humans have a lot of limitations in this matter of power, and a Kintoün should be able to be used by anyone and it shouldn't give a big boost, making it human-exclusive and calling that an ''awakening'' sounds kinda odd too, when it could be just like Kaio-Ken (I mean, that it could be used by anyone like a Ultimate or something)


    They are (along the Freeza's race, since it's never explained how the hell they are Time Patrollers in the first place) the most pointless race to be playable in the game, and that's just because they have no visible differentiation with Saiyans, it seems almost like they just wanted to add another race and just copy-pasted the Saiyan model with different stats, when it could've been a totally different, unique and cool-looking race.


    A transformation is the only logical way to make them stronger and more unique in a POSSIBLE way though, that quote you mentioned doesn't work with them since they have a really low limit as to how strong they can get in their lives (lore-wise).


    Compared to Saiyans or Humans with Saiyan blood, it just doesn't make sense for a normal Human to be able to goe toe to toe with Whiss at anytime, no matter how hard they train, so even with a Potential Unleashed they would probably just stand against Namek saga 4th form Freeza or something like that, while Saiyans could go WAAAAY further beyond without even transforming, it's just the way the series showed them, since they aren't a warrior race.


    I'm not saying they should add the Android upgrade either, though I wouldn't dislike it, I just said it's the best idea for making them reasonable fighters inside the story.


    The fact that they are already a good race to play without transformations couldn't be less important to me in this case, since when I talk about this I focus more on their involvement with the game world they created than their stats and playability, and when you think about it, it really breaks the immersion, or at least that's my case.
    And you could also kick butts without transforming as a normal Saiyan too.


    And if you finish to read this wall of text, you have my respects.

    But the process to being turned into an Android is permanent and how would that work as a transformation skill?

    Just as I said, a simple boost. If Z-Souls can do it, when they are supposed to be just quotes of other people, transformations can too, remember that they are machines, and machines can be at low, medium, high or full power, just think about it.

    I'm agree with you, but humans could have transformations... Kind of... They could give humans a transformation that " transform " them in to Saiyaman! Or give them a technological armor made by capsule corp.

    Yeah, it would've made a lot more sense storywise if the Humans could be upgraded to Androids, being able to boost their normal skills in middle of battle doubling their Ki regeneration speed and more movement and attack speed, no more damage because that would already be too OP, since their attack is already boosted when Max Ki, and this would perdure for the rest of the match, maybe it could be deactivated with broken Stamina, but I don't know. It sounds like a good idea to me, I dunno what others think.

    Hurray for adding Great Namek! Also the Earthing "Awakening" (that's what they're calling it) is certainly interesting.

    And kinda stupid too. The game looks fine, but I think Humans are completely irrelevant and shouldn't be playable in the first place. It's just a Saiyan-copypaste with slightly different stats and no cool transformation at all, lamest and weakest race in the entire franchise, and their ''awakening'' should be able to be used by any other race from a lore-standpoint, if they removed them they could give the Kintōun to all races and everyone would be much happier.


    Hell, even Yardrats would be much cooler, who wouldn't want to fight as a blue dwarf with a giant head? I certainly would.
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    Look at this little beast, if I saw him face to face I would have a heart attack in an instant.