Posts by Daneos

Quote from jameba

Well u cant blame @famousphantom he didnt know the updates would be like this, where dex doesnt give crits and and a new system for dodge.
IMHO i think daneous should do a discussion before doing an update but thats his choice, because most of the people dont like his choices and. if he wants a good proper server he needs to hear peoples opinion about what actually needs nerfing and buffing instead of him thinking on his own.(I DONT KNOW IF HE IS DOING IT ON HIS OWN) but again people will just support their fav op class and say PLZ DONT NERD.

well Daneous i recommend you to read the balance suggesting thread before u change stuff, (IGNORE THE DISLIKES BLAZZING BARRAGER GOT) some of it is actually really good stuff.

Why would I want to hear opinions from people like mrhunt11 who dont even know what they are talking about? What ballance means? What bugs are?

Anyway Im closing this since this thread makes no sense. If you dont like then dont play.

* Fixes

• Chain attack bonus rate. Increases damage by 0%, 0.5%, 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%
• Item Attribute now calculated into attack damage (skill damage excluded)
• Dodge rate is now a bit higher when when lower levels attack higher levels. I believe in retail dbo the level difference had a higher role than now.
• A bug in the new inventory system which could crash the game
• Pick up Zeni within Party

No, you can figure one out by yourself and share your results here.

Quote from mrhunt11

What about 1700 dodge rate vs 800 hit rate,and 10 lvls diference, Should I dodge by now?
or maybe when i get 3000Dodge vs 800 Hit rate whi a diference of 30 lvls
Would dodge work then?

Dude its not about the ammount
ITS abbout the relation betweee 3 values
LVL, DODGE and HIT

lvl 70 fighter cant dodge a lvl 26 hits
WHAT the fuck does dodge work for?

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mrhunt11 with all my respect, but are you drunk or high? I dont know what to say to you.

Anyway to your question.

Attacker: 800 hit rate, Level 60
Target: 3000 dodge, level 30
= 30% dodge chance

Attacker: 800 hit rate, Level 30
Target: 3000 dodge, level 60
= 60% dodge chance

"how can I still recieve basic attacks from people level 20"
You do realise that even when dodge chance is 99% there is still 1% that the attack is success, right?

Badass, what ever you calculated there makes no sense and is not use-able. Learn some linear, polynomial or whatever and then try to find out the dodge formula. Ive already posted some examples.

Of course mobs are supposed to dodge attacks too. If you fight vs a player with the exact same stats like a monster then you will deal the same damage to the monster and player

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Quote from jameba

u sure about pve cause im dodging snakes attacks AND IM A SWORDSMAN WITH NO DEX STACKED ONLY PENETRATE.
the snakes are 4 lvls higher then me.
so far im loving this new dodge XD

They dont know what they are talking about and prefer having a bugged and non calculated dodge system where they dodge every attack. But once enemy dodge the attacks of them they are crying.

Thread closed since the same thread exist already DEX big proplem

Quote from Xicor

why @Daneos why u wanna screw fighters and SM's so much why dex is bothering u that much .. excuse me for saying this, but this is totally a nonsense.. i'm lvl 70 with 1558 dodge rate and getting hit by ppl level 26 i even got hit from monsters lvl 18

if i may say... stats do not need any nerfing atm plus if it stays like this till beta it will be a total genocide towards fighters and all dodge users.
i'm sure if we make a vote right now the mjority will vote to make it the way it was why changing claculations to be something different from retail dbo.

i remember that you @Daneos said you are not planning to add or make a lot or big modifications to the game so it be more like retail dbo and if you do any it will be for making game better... but by doing this i do not see better.

i hope u @Daneos are reading this and reconsider your thought again and make it to be more like retail dbo not nerfing it to be unbalanced.. i mean if ppl wanna conquer dodge they can easily get focus that's why FOC is there.. cuz there are MANY players using some certain classes that count entirly on dex to play so by doing this these classes are dead.

i want to say that i might spam my comment till i be heard by the devs and something is done towards this serious problem.

again and again hope you reconsider your thoughts and fix it.

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Im not doing anything on purpose against fighters or any class.. All Im doing is what I have to, to make the game more like retail-dbo. But I will not have a discussion here now because you 'all' dont even know what you are talking about or have any idea about anything of this.

Quote from SHEEN

I don't think Daneos is doing it alone that would be impossible, if he is then Kappa. Anyway I think some certain things that we don't see important being added in updates is because maybe there is a team of devs that work on specific areas and try to have weekly goals or something. That's just the way I think it is though, maybe it is only Daneos, who knows.

Nope.
Some times Im just bored of working on something so I work on another thing.

Quote from mrhunt11

Fair Calculation for Dodge will be like this

(Hit Rate/Dodge) /2:
It Means:
(1000Hit / 1000dodge)/2 = 1 / 2 = 0.5 = 50% chances to HIT
If u want to HIT u must wear FOC gear, u dont deserve to hit if u dont have FOC gear, if u can hit whit out FOC, Dodge have no meanning.
Why this calculation?
Cuz:
1FOC = 10 Hit Rate
1DEX = 5 Dodge
o yea this is real guys.. this is the real thing. the basic game does this.
I cant understad why this unbalance. Dodge and Hit Rate are antonyms, they are the oposite, if u want to beat DEX u must wear more FOC, if u dont waer more FOC u wont hit, and when DEX and FOC are even u have 50% chance to hit. simple as that

The calculation can be changed if FOC and DEX give the same amount of values.
Fighters wear all DEX, to become strong, its pretty sad that whit only 1 gear of FOC u can beat all 6 DEX gears

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:grapeman23:

Very nice calculation my friend. But sadly no monster and player always have 1000 hit rate and 1000 dodge.

If you can get better dodge percent than this then god bless you

dodge percent 0.52%, hitrate 986, dodge 50, AttackerLv 48, TargetLv 5
dodge percent 0.61%, hitrate 855, dodge 50, AttackerLv 47, TargetLv 5
dodge percent 1.86%, hitrate 1330, dodge 143, AttackerLv 60, TargetLv 12
dodge percent 65.65%, hitrate 150, dodge 256, AttackerLv 5, TargetLv 47
dodge percent 68.76%, hitrate 150, dodge 290, AttackerLv 5, TargetLv 48
dodge percent 30.32%, hitrate 1200, dodge 1334, AttackerLv 70, TargetLv 70

EDIT: Im not saying that this is the perfect dodge calcultion but thats the best working one so far. If someone can come up with a better calculation than me then very nice. You can use the rates listed above and try to create a formula. And no I will not post the current one. Everyone can take a formula and change one or two numbers.

Hello and welcome. Enjoy your stay :dpeace:

* Updates

• Bank shared with Account (Requires special item)

* Fixes

• Pick up items when inside a party.
• Scouters not bound to character by default anymore.
• Security holes when processing database
• Items from bank do not count as inventory items anymore. This fix the bug that bank items gets stacked/removed while inventory items do not get touched.
• Dupe items exploit
• "Capsule Kit" is no longer shown as reward after disassembling an item
• Player needs a full party + leader to be able to create a guild
• A completly new dodge calculation which uses attacker level, hit rate and target level, dodge. Example: Attacker Lv 70, 1600 Hit Rate / Target Lv 60, 1300 Dodge = 23% dodging the attack. If the target is lv 70 too then the is a 26% chance to dodge. Dodge is not applied on skills right now.
• Skills which dont deal damage can now be used on targets which are using guard.
• Skills which deal damage can now be dodged

If the portal isnt there and you cant re-take the TLQ quest from the NPC then you have already finished it.

This is not UD. I think its BID (Battle in dungeon). Same thing like UD.

* Updates

--- The server can now have bonus rates (Will be used for events)

• - Solo EXP Rate: This increase the received EXP by X%. Does not stack with "Party EXP Rate"
• - Party EXP Rate: Increases the received EXP when in a party by X%. Only works when 2 or more players in party. If player is alone inside a party then "Solo EXP Rate" will count.
• - Item Drop Rate: Increases the chance to drop items by X%. Example: Item drop rate 10, bonus rate = 10. New drop rate = 11% (10*10/100)
• - Zeni Drop Rate: Increases the chance to drop zeni by X%. Works like "Item Drop Rate"
• - Zeni Bonus Rate: Increases the received zeni by X%. Only works when 1. Not inside a party. 2. When player is inside a party but looting method is "free for all" 3. When player is alone in a party and looting method is "divide"
• - Zeni Party Bonus Rate: Increases the received zeni by X%. Only works when 2 or more players in party and looting method is "divide"
• - Quest Exp Bonus Rate: Increases the received EXP from quests by X%.
• - Quest Zeni Bonus Rate: Increases the received Zeni from quests by X%.

* Fixes
- Possible server crash within the auto attack progress from BOTs
- BOTs no longer keep attacking after death
- Dogis which possess a dogi ball can no longer be traded/sold.
- Skills dealing twice crit damage / have 2 chances to deal crit damage.
- Party members can pick up dropped items/zeni.
- Notify party members when someone picked up zeni.
- Party zeni pick up options "divide" and "free for all" now working

Just a test

I think it is kind of funny seeing names like "SunShinePussy". It can make people smile while a stressful day.

Well it depends what def the enemy has. 1-1000 def you have noticeable dmg difference. Above 1000 the dmg does not change much.

Where is the nerf my friend?

First of all "crit damage is icnreased when critical hit is succesfful" this effect does not exist.

Second the skills which had the effect "Damage is increased when critical hit is successfull" were the only skills which could do crit damage. Now every skill can deal crit damage.

When a skill which has the effect "Damage is increased when critical hit is successfull" deals crit damage then the base damage from the skill is being increased.

The only reason you deal less damage than before is because % calculation was wrong. If I didnt fix the calculation bug you would deal even more dmg than before.

And my tip: If you dont understand what Im talking about then grab your calculator and calculate the damage.

Quote from gaidenxxx

You do realize that physical defense is not working atm right ? . 16k dmg while defense is not working would be around 12-13 whenit works.It was completely fine. and by the way, i have 21% crit dmg increase stick, and it does absolutely nothing. i still have 14k dmg atm

You do realise that everything you post in this thread is garbage and makes no sense.

- Defense is working since weeks. The calculation is still not like retail dbo.
- Crit damage calculation was wrong and is now correct.
- Rp damage bonus effect is now correctly working.

Did I write anywhere I nerfed anything? No. Dont write bullshit. thanks

EDIT: And to answer your question: Nothing is wrong.