So far dende has won twice, fighter won once, crane won once and the rest has been dominated by SK and Karma.
https://dboglobal.to/ranking
SK need a nerf :v
Posts by Jorge A. Tellez
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Just because someone hasn't won budokai it doesn't mean they aren't pro at the class they play. Prelims in general is hard for cranes to pass unless they use spirit ball and their fan skills to kill.
i seen dendes,pokos, female turtles, fighter winning budokai, and almost always normal sk and karma no neccesary pro.
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How many times do you need to be told that crane doesn't need a buff or any changes. You've had a GM and 2 mods who played crane and they all said nothing needed to be changed. Stop adding more nonsense to this thread...
i had a one GM and 2 mods who played crane but Neither of the two is a pro CRANE and never won budokai, only they use cranes for farmming for earn zeni and equip other characters, and they say that the crane is fine because they not want that others characters are affect.
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Hello Jorge, hello guys!
I don't play as Crane but i like it's play style since TW, is something similar to Affliction Warlocks from WoW heheh
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I thank you for your concern!, i was reading your thread and i have a suggestion for Agile Armor:
The Defense Rate like we know is Caped at 20%, but since is unknown how many points at it means 20% and Agile Armor ups the current Crane's Defense Rate points by 104%?? at max (maybe someone from community is able to confirm this please?
), even if this Stat is not a common or popular one, any Damage Mitigation is Good in my opinion, even from Auto Attacks but, maybe??.. adding some Dex to Agile Armor (it also fits its name heheh) will help with resistances with a spice of some dodge in combo with Resist It and Increase Agility.Regards.
dodge rate 300% by cranes :V
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Suggestions on what kind of changes I believe Crane needs
With the way DBO Crane functions right now, aside from extra damage on their Fan out skills/Rapid/Spirit ball weapon upgrade's meaningless for Crane. Sure with a +15 fan as Siren/Sendoku have demonstrated you can kill MAs pretty quickly without the use of the DoTs, however most players that you'll be encountering on Solo budokai are SKs, Dendes, DWs, and sometimes Turtle Hermit rendering weapon upgrade to be as viable as dex is for Turtles. I personally believe Daneos should make Crane DoTs work in a similar fashion as Bold strike's bleed does, "279% Bleeding damage". That way Crane's aren't so overpowered that they can completely bypass their adversaries defense and kill them, while at the same time giving them an incentive to upgrade their weapons. I think thousand slashes should stay the way it is right now, if you want it to pack a strong punch use power rp as Daneos intended Cranes to do. The point of Cranes in pvp is play defensively while slowly draining their opponents health, they've already got a debuff that cuts a portion of their opponents health which i believe is more than good enough in both PvE and PvP.
Crane's lack of instant RP orb skill
RP regen wise, if you have the right kind of gear that shouldn't even be a factor that you have to worry about. The second you sleep your opponent you can charge as many RP balls as you want; Land your combos correctly, and you'l be able to sleep your enemies again to regain your RP orbs. Is it unfair that Crane doesn't have a skill that gives them an RP orb instantly? Debatable, is it fair that Crane's DoTs bypass your opponents defense? Once again also debatable.
Do Crane's need instant CC?
If you were to give Cranes a instant stun what would you give them? Lost in time won't accomplish anything, it's just another 35m paralyze move, paralysis is very easily countered by competitive players. So if confusion, and Paralysis are useless I say give them a stun. A stun that lasts for roughly 3-5 seconds with a 0.5 second cast time, that way it's still possible to cancel it, but it doesn't so long that it'd be as worthless as their other CCs. If they successfully land the stun the Crane will receive a 350 poison(stackable) side effect that lasts for 30 seconds, that way they can't abuse it to win via timer. Despite the annoying DoT draining the Crane's health per use, it will at least give you the small window to Sleep/Freeze lock your opponent thus most of the time giving you the win(assuming you don't screw anything up).
turtle has a book that recovery all RP only pressing one button. 7 rp ball, can use critical, knockdown, etc.
Crane need charge and change clothes to have max 3 RP balls.
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Because no one knows how to play it like Sendoku or Tien.
In spanish (please respond with appropiate language last warning! regards boxbox)
lol, sendoku no es el unico que saber usar el grulla, y una cosa es estar equipado y la otra es saber usarlo. yo se usarlo no tengo todavia mi equipo de fusion de armaduras de coldown con el efecto de las cajas random con Constitution 24, es cosa de gastar mucho cash y suerte. les puedo enseñar a muchos grullas a saberlo usar a diferencia de sendoku es un egoista y el no les dira como se usa. y ya dejen de hablar tonterias gente que jamas usa un grulla. El SK es el personaje mas roto en budokai. incluso puedes buscar dbo tw y tampoco habia ningun grulla con aura de budokai, ni veras en este juego ni a tien ni a sendoku porque ya dejaron al grulla por lo dejaron muy mal con tanto nerf ya decidieron usar otros personajes, a diferencia de yo que jamas me doy por vencido ni abandono este Crane. Estoy decepcionado de todos, intento hacer un cambio pero siempre tratan de bloquear opciones, quieren su sk toda la vida.
y los que usan crane no digan que estan bien , intento de ayudarles para que no los desprecien como clase como pasa en CCBD que no los invitan por ser cranes y prefieren turtles, o en las partys de budokai. quieren jugar toda la vida solo farmeando mobs?
In english
lol, sendoku is not the only one that knows how to use the crane, and one thing is to be equipped and the other is to know how to use it. I use it, I do not have my fusion team of coldown armor with the effect of the random boxes with Constitution 24, it's a matter of spending a lot of cash and luck. I can teach many cranes to know how to use unlike sendoku is an egoist and he will not tell you how to use it. and stop talking silly people who never use a crane. SK is the most broken character in budokai. you can even search for dbo tw and there was no crane with a budokai aura, nor will you see in this game either tien or sendoku because they left the crane because they left it very bad with so much nerf and they decided to use other characters, unlike me I never give up or abandon this Crane. I'm disappointed in everyone, I try to make a change but they always try to block options, they want their sk all their lives.
and those who use crane do not say they are good, I try to help them so that they do not despise them as a class as it happens in CCBD that they are not invited because they are cranes and prefer turtles, or in the budokai partys. Do you want to play all your life just doing mobs?
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My final statement is that crane doesn't need any other changes period. These stupid threads are created because people think a class is terrible because they can't play the class itself. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. Why make an already op class stronger?
cuando ganes un budokai con el crane me tranquilizare, y te tomare en cuenta.
when you win budokai with crane Im fine.
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crane is the only class that don't have instant stun, i guess he meant that. Classes that have much more dps just use 1 stun and use 2 skill to kill ( if the game is played without potting).
Anyway i'm fine with the crane he have a lot of good spells
I hate that this game is balanced only with gears, if we make a tournament of naked players some classes doesn't even have a chance to win [ that means balance? ]
tu solo usas para farmear supongo yo hago intento siempre ganar budokai. y se que cosas lo limitan.
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I've never seen Sendoku or Tien complain about that. Quit crying because you aren't good at playing crane. It's similar to someone trying to boost fighter because they can't crit lmfao.
tambien se quejaron en su momento, solo que no te enteras de lo que pasa, haber si esta tan bien el grulla porque sendoku lo dejo de utilizar ?, estamos hablando de 2 personas en todo el servidor y tambien influyo mucho la suerte, eso no refleja que el personaje este bien., cuantos turtles, karma, sk , fighter han ganado, y no me digas que son muy buenos, que tanto les puede perjudicar que el grulla tenga un paralisis directo como cualquier otro personaje.
te aseguro que de aqui en 6 meses no ves ningun grulla ganar.
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I never played karma. Only classes Ive played are SK POKO SM AND ULTI. You can try again though. I've used a class no one thinks can PvP and destroyed tons with it. Don't talk to me about playing classes.
pero todos esos personajes tienen stuns :V
but this characters mencioned have stuns :V
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All of these threads about crane are really people crying because they don't know how to play the class.
you only want evade the improve with this class. Be an expert who only presses a button to stun and feel op, using sk and karmas with 5 stuns.
solo quieres evitar que mejoren esta clase. debes sentirte un experto que solo usas un boton para paralisar, usando personajes faciles como sk y karmas con 5 stuns.
people who do not know how to use it simply change to the easiest class to use as turtle sk, karma, fighter, etc, I know perfectly how this character works and I know their weaknesses and strengths. and there are details like the stun that for more op you are not advancing.
Las personas que no saben utilizarlo simplemente se cambian a la clase mas facil de usar como turtle sk, karma, fighter, etc, yo se perfectamente como funciona este personaje y conosco sus debilidades y fortalezas. y hay detalles como el stun que por mas op que seas no avanzas.
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de todas formas el sk tiene mas bleed, asi que no les afectara tanto que el grulla este op.
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if you prepare the base of the game, have the chance to defend as well,
crane would have the ability due:
this skill only found with mobs, with automatic atacks.
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hace mucho nerfearon el paralisis, pero supuestamente era porque lo compensarian con su gran daño.
pero que hizo daneos, el aplico nerf también al DOT, ahora no tiene nada bueno, más que puro bleed haciendo los combos con cualquier error de dedo te matarian, otros personajes que tienen un comodín de 2 hasta 5 paralisis, antes habia forma de protegerse equipandose dex y la Resistence Rate.
pero que hizo después daneos, también quizo nerfear el porcentaje de 100% a 60%, ahora no tiene ninguna ventaja a menos que los duermas, y apliques correctamente el combo pero también aunque hagas el combo completo llega a fallar por tener bajo Hit rate, minimo si no pensabas hacer un balance porque solo lo arruinas mas de lo que estaba en taiwan.
minimo dejen el debuff que tenia antes de 3050 de defensa y el daño que tenia el DOT. o bien deberías hacer que la guardia funcione al 100% para poder evitar skills.
o también que nos den una revista como el turtle, y porque las grúas no pueden tener esa ventaja?.
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thats because its too much work to get the class to compete with other classes. There are many other classes who are way cheaper and easier to gear and be successful with.
and you do not think that would be a good reason for daneos to improve the crane?
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Would you motivate yourself to equip a character to +14 knowing that he does not have stuns to compete?
And what can I do to make it better this class? it seems that no one is interested.
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Because you was able to one shot everyone with burn+thousand slashes, and this was autistic, crane is known from overtime dmg and tiring fight, not oneshot.I dont want say anything but most of cranes that i see in game have trash gear i saw maybe 2-3 well geared cranes but they dont care about pvp the others are trash,
turtle and sk dont have stun but paralize, at lvl 70 crane will get dmg boost by 50% from passive and he will be nerfed, game is prepared for lvl 70 not 60.
You point turtle that he have stun and shield lock but he can't win vs crane,karma,sk here is a lot of op sk/fighters with hardcore gear if you dont have gear that match them how you want win with them? you think one stun will change everything? fighter will still one shot crane and sword wont let you stand up, karma will also always stun you faster because he have the fastest stun and the crane paralzie had pretty long animation skill.
for crane is hard to pass eliminations in budokai because he have overtime dmg that need time for kill while fighters/swords/turtles doing massive dmg that can insta kill the opponent even if you drop dots on them.
Today we have some players that are pretty op with thier gear +14/+15 and they control the budokai they decide who will pass and who will win and until you dont have same gear as them you should not complain that you can't win with your crane, is just logic, did you ever saw who winning the budokai? look at mussolini, akatsuki or these chinese creatures full +14/+15 how you want win them with your trash equip? when crane will get stun dende in 1 vs 1 will be faked for real, crane vs crane will be more autistic, and turtle will have 0 chance to win against crane. And i know that in few threads i said that crane need stun or something but when i think more about it i was wrong the whole human race is broken they killing each other for one hit/combo first stun win, dmg comprared to defense if mistake, crane dont suck in pvp for sure but your fight is over when fighter/sword/karma/plasma will get you, the other classes is not a problem for crane. Today crane have best dmg in game and he can kill most tankiest class easy.
~WRITTEN BY MAIN CRANE.
the stun its the more important for crane. check crane hermit with skill lost in time.
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Dodon barrage bug already reported
3050 or 1400, crane in tw has 3050 debuff physical defense
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Crane need one direct stun, (lost in time). or can evade stuns of the other characters. or guard 100% in level 3.
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No one would pick crane they would pick turtle instead except if he a newbie and doesn't know how bad crane is.
Like i said in the other thread crane needs improvement. Also what Box-head(boxbox) said "change mystical crane typhoon to poison"
Agile armor buff is useless so change it to give something else.
you're wrong I beat even people with green aura SK, but now this server is worse than before. the dodom barrage has 3050 debuff phisical defense now only have 1400.
