Why are people still wasting time with @Kamekameman
You'd have a better chance communicating with a wall
Uncalled for and quite frankly a little rude. If you don't like the arguing maybe try not to instigate it too.
Posts by Cosmo
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My original reply was simply a question, and nothing more. If questioning the helpfulness of others is considered "rude" then that is not my issue.
No it isn't. Questioning the helpfulness of others shows that you somewhat don't trust them or doubt the logic, reasoning, or the intelligence of their message. you can either engage in sensible ways such as "i see that you've said 'X' but i think it might be 'X' because of previous post or other thread or information'
Not just out right saying "i think you are wrong" and then disliking all of their posts, which your name appears on so you can't hide it.
Also this "So did anyone even answer their question?" Well it seems you have something in common with the 'newbie' as you also couldn't read my post that did in fact answer his question. But no, you decided to what looks like you being 'snarky' to another user instead of either answering him yourself or suggesting where they may be able to find it. Which by the way are what the forums are built for and are about.
Something tells me you will have trouble understanding what i'm talking about so i went ahead and put references in bold up in the quotes for you.
I also suspect that i will get yet another unhelpful reply from you or see another of you again being unhelpful to the thread creator by 'dissing' another user (no names will be mentioned but you really are just picking on a select 2 of them) so with that out of the way i'm done here. I've said my piece and i also answered the problem with this thread AND gave them further help on how to learn.
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So did anyone even answer their question? Cause they are saying they cannot locate any of the threads you and others are mentioning. So your suggestion isn't helpful.
Yes, I did. I also gave them the Tools and the know-how to further search on the problem at hand.
And yes his suggestion is immensely helpful, showing and or telling others how to use the website properly will help them in the future endeavors as well as the current one. you seem to just be commenting for the sake of being rude to someone you perhaps may not like as many others on this forum as do to others.
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I don't know if you noticed but this person is clearly a newbie. Don't you think that they are unfamiliar with the forums at this point? You are still willing to argue and waste time with me over this, but you wont spend a minute to give a simple answer to a newbie? Again, big waste of time. One way another we just need to wait for the server and it will be fine. These forums are as bad as they get i guess. Worse than Neoseeker.
I refuse to believe that someone who is able to navigate to the create a topic section and then create one isn't able to read the box right at the top of the page that says "Search this forum" Or the 2 boxes on the right hand side of the forum that give you the "latest posts" and the "hot threads" 2 f which are currently about this exact same issue. and also the page that you automatically get loaded on to when you log on is the one that includes the threads created by moderators and daneos showing you how to navigate the forums as well as game hints and tips.
can someone give me the link or the tag of one of those "other" threads?
Can't find them in the forum..
See above, The boxes on the right hand side of the screen, and the search bar.
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Why would just spend so much time saying all of that when you can just answer them then? You just continue to waste your own time over something that just has a simple solution, one way or another we still have to wait for the server.
You say that both of their answers were wasting time when you have wasted everyone who clicks on and read and/or comments on this thread when you could have just read one of the many MANY other threads created about this very issue.
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Alpha testing, not beta
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I lost 4 bars of exp from completing tons of quests, and after channel crashed my quests were gone, just like my exp -_-
Welcome to beta testing
Don't worry this won't happen with your new character when we move onto the next step after Pre-Open Beta.
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No problem. To be honest, yes it could've been cleared up easily, but you both were too caught up trying to prove each other wrong and say one of you was right. Well atleast you know now, that Pre-beta is just Pre-Open Beta for short and by the way, just because they may not have the same name, doesn't mean they don't can't refer to the same thing, alright?
Yes I am aware that they now do mean the same thing. However no I was not trying to prove said other user wrong I was doing my best to clear it up for myself because I started to believe I was wrong, presenting the evidence I thought made me understand what I was saying was right for those who needed to know the answers and were clicking on this link.And I agree. just because they are different words and phrases it doesn't mean they can not mean the same thing however in this sense we have to be careful of wording as the 3 variations of the last severs have been very close and confused newcomers. This is why I thought she was confused as it may have been a different step in the overall progress.
Again, thanks for clearing it up.
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You might want to re-read everything that she had said, she pretty much stated everything correctly.
Edit: I just realized she's calling it the Pre-beta, if you didn't notice, she's referring to the Pre-Open Beta as just Pre-Beta for short. If that's what made you think she was wrong the whole time, well now you know.Well there we go then. She has confused me by not using the term that Daneos has created and the whole of the forum is based on. Therefore we are both right. Or at least i am as i gave critical proof and links.
Also surely she should have noticed that and told me so that we avoided confusion instead of calling me wrong and her right when she had been using the wrong terminology the whole time.
Please do re-read my previous post before this one, there is an edit on it that will explain.
Thank you for clearing this up for me though, i was certain i was reading correctly, i do not wish to give out false information.
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You might want to re-read everything that she had said, she pretty much stated everything correctly.
Then i am misunderstanding.
Eskchan: "The thread itself is about the Pre-beta."
Me/Cosmo: "To make thing clear. i know i was talking about the pre-open beta because i was of the understanding that that is what the Thread creator meant, which was further confirmed by their appreciative words and then leaving as they were done."
Eskchan: "That is why i specified that in the Pre-beta all characters will be deleted, and in the Open Beta will not"
Me/Cosmo: "Daneos saying Pre-Open beta data will be deleted"All Progress from Pre-Open Beta Test shall be deleted and everyone will start anew on Open beta which will have no wipes." "
Where am i wrong in this? Pre-beta and Pre-Open beta aren't the same as they are named differently
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Daneos saying Pre-Open beta data will be deleted
"All Progress from Pre-Open Beta Test shall be deleted and everyone will start anew on Open beta which will have no wipes."
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I'm not complaining.I'm simply letting daneos know that the server is unplayable so he could possibly do something about it.
News flash, HE KNOWS, people have been flooding the website with this information for over 10 hours now. If you looked you would see over a page full of threads saying it's not working.
We just have to wait for him to get on. He has a life outside of DBOG and we can't force him to be here all the time.
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OPEN Beta. They will not be deleted in the OPEN Beta. We are in the Pre-beta. That's two completely different things, which i already explained at least 3 times for you.
That the characters will be deleted is what Daenos said about the Pre-beta, which is where we are now. He ALSO said in his FAQ that characters in the actual Open Beta will never be wiped.
See here in the FAQ: Pre-Open Beta FAQ
And i quote:Q : What’s the difference between Pre-Open Beta and Open Beta?
A : After the Pre-Open Beta, we will
have a wipe (deleting all characters and their data). After the Open
Beta, there won’t be such a thing. Pre-Open beta still lacks in features
that will come from time to time. Open Beta will have everything. We
just need to fix the bugs and make some fine tunings.It was my understanding that we were talking about the Pre-Open beta ad that is what we are currently in. Not everyone knows the terms right as they are unfamiliar with beta and open beta not being the same.
I am unsure as to why people are still trying to say i am wrong or someone else is when with presented with this information from me and other users the thread creator said his thank yous and left.
To make thing clear. i know i was talking about the pre-open beta because i was of the understanding that that is what the Thread creator meant, which was further confirmed by their appreciative words and then leaving as they were done.
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English is your first language right? Just read it again and you'll get it. The person specifically stated in the first few sentences they know characters will be deleted.
Then they go on to say that after that the game will be in open beta and stuff will not be deleted, exactly what Daneos said. It sounds like you did not read this person's post :ofirst of all no it is not my first language.
But thank you. Now i understand what you meant rather than having to try and figure out what you was slyly hinting at instead.
i took the line "but Characters in the Open Beta will NOT be deleted" (which i have made bold for you) to mean exactly that when Daneos has stated in my linked thread that they will be deleted.
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You should really read that person's post you quoted again. Much more carefully than you (possibly) did before.
It would be nicer on users like me if you could actually tell me what i misread or didn't understand rather than play a game with me and insult me to a degree in the process.
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its not private when i can see the title with my own eyes. it's very annoying that you know the thread is there but you can't take a look at it.
Why do you want to look at it? the point i'm making is that if you could read it then arguments would start.
Again, forgive me if i'm wrong but why would you want to read them other than for the reason to instigate or start trouble?
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that's why i'm saying they should make a new private system for such things. do you get it?
It is private. you said and i quote "i've noticed that you can't see any player report threads"
This indicates that they are no longer public.
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well thats bullshit. if they don't want people to know about it don't let it stay public. they could make some new system or something that goes private right away to the team. people gets too curious about what it's about. really bad system, really really bad
Personally i think it's much better to only allow the people who can actually change anything about these users to see it. Why would you want to see if someone disliked or reported you?
It seems as if you want people to start arguing or something, forgive me if i'm understanding this wrong but users have no business flaunting that they've reported someone as the only thing they can do is escalate the situation when the mods can somewhat sort it by issuing punishments if they are due.
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i was able to see all posts before. dosen't really makes sence. do they want it public or not?
You'd think that people wouldn't want everyone knowing who exactly has reported and or blocked who.
In fact if they did publish/show that i think it would instigate much more hate and people being rude and unpleasant to each other. I think it's for the best that only the mods and higher can see it. i suggest if you really do want the people you have reported to know you reported them then you message them?
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First of all, this is NOT a Beta. It's a Alpha, or Pre-Beta if you will. And yes, the characters will be deleted. Everything will be gone except Cash-Shop Points which will be replenished so you get all points back you bought.
After that comes the open Beta, which is the actual Beta. This is still not a full game, but Characters in the Open Beta will NOT be deleted, you can keep them even when the full game releases.
All of this has been stated by Daenos in his FAQ.
As to when the Beta will come arround, there are only few missing features now. So it will probably be a few months max.
Read this Daneos stating progress will be deleted
