You are right some skill needs to be changed to poison like double gut buster to be able to use spirit wave and paralysis without cast speed and from 35m, single target.
How many times do you need to be told that crane doesn't need a buff or any changes. You've had a GM and 2 mods who played crane and they all said nothing needed to be changed. Stop adding more nonsense to this thread...
having mained Crane in POB , Cranes Are not fine period.
They have stupid mistakes with their skill like , no poison DoT in their skill tree even tho they are MASTERS AT DOT! they have to use poison from first tree instead what the hell and u still call them DOT MASTERS?! this is not logical by game standards!
Mystical crane typhoon( or any other DOT FROM CRANES SKILL TREE) needs to be changed to Poison THIS IS NOT EVEN A BUFF SIMPLY CORRECTING A MISTAKE! before someone yells cranes are fine
Just because you played doesn't mean you mastered the class. Move on..
Only issue is crane has literally no counterplay against a karma majin, and this is the same thing for most classes that are not SKs, and, even mussolini (+15 complete gears maximum bonuses) got 2-0 by Flundaa...
Karmas are hard to fight for every class. SK last longer because of their LP but other classes can have as much or the same amount of edef as a sk with CC90 armor.
The event was very chaotic 80% of spanish/brassilians didnt even speak english and they spam chat with thier own language or with dice all time i left after 2 minutes, lets not forget about chanel crash kek, this form of "event" is mistake, for next time just take someone who will mute/ban these faggots with animal behaviour, after few bans/mute they will calm.
You're really racist towards hispanics/brs you need to chill with that shit especially on the forums. It's not their fault that they want to participate but can't speak English fluently.
Crane requires discipline and training but it's not a super hard class if it's one of the hardest ones. Only funny thing is that they can't use their main dot skills since bleeding accessories are very popular. Other than that I'm not against this nor supporting it, the class is the most unique and fun for sure.
Last time I was doing ranked battles with my crane it didn't wake them up as long as I didn't mess up by not targeting myself to prevent from auto attacking them.
Ty.
turtle has a book that recovery all RP only pressing one button. 7 rp ball, can use critical, knockdown, etc.
Crane need charge and change clothes to have max 3 RP balls.
Terrible idea.
That would be a nerf and a buff at the same time
jk
Depends on two variables, the Crane's weapons, and their opponents defense.
Sounds good to me. I approve ✓
To sum up the first paragraph I was saying that I believe Crane's DoT should be based off of Weapon upgrade and should react to defense the same way Bold's bleed does. And that Thousand slashes is fine as it is. 2nd paragraph I was just saying that Crane shouldn't have an ability that automatically gives them RP, and that they're fine as they are in that regard. Finally to summarize the last paragraph I was describing what kind of CC Crane would need if Daneos ever decided to give them one, and how to balance it. Simple enough for ya?
I like it but would the upgraded weapon make their dots stronger than they already are?
Because you are an ultimate
Nah. Im a sk and poko. Probably Ulti again 70. All 3 classes actually
Display MoreSuggestions on what kind of changes I believe Crane needs
With the way DBO Crane functions right now, aside from extra damage on their Fan out skills/Rapid/Spirit ball weapon upgrade's meaningless for Crane. Sure with a +15 fan as Siren/Sendoku have demonstrated you can kill MAs pretty quickly without the use of the DoTs, however most players that you'll be encountering on Solo budokai are SKs, Dendes, DWs, and sometimes Turtle Hermit rendering weapon upgrade to be as viable as dex is for Turtles. I personally believe Daneos should make Crane DoTs work in a similar fashion as Bold strike's bleed does, "279% Bleeding damage". That way Crane's aren't so overpowered that they can completely bypass their adversaries defense and kill them, while at the same time giving them an incentive to upgrade their weapons. I think thousand slashes should stay the way it is right now, if you want it to pack a strong punch use power rp as Daneos intended Cranes to do. The point of Cranes in pvp is play defensively while slowly draining their opponents health, they've already got a debuff that cuts a portion of their opponents health which i believe is more than good enough in both PvE and PvP.
Crane's lack of instant RP orb skill
RP regen wise, if you have the right kind of gear that shouldn't even be a factor that you have to worry about. The second you sleep your opponent you can charge as many RP balls as you want; Land your combos correctly, and you'l be able to sleep your enemies again to regain your RP orbs. Is it unfair that Crane doesn't have a skill that gives them an RP orb instantly? Debatable, is it fair that Crane's DoTs bypass your opponents defense? Once again also debatable.
Do Crane's need instant CC?
If you were to give Cranes a instant stun what would you give them? Lost in time won't accomplish anything, it's just another 35m paralyze move, paralysis is very easily countered by competitive players. So if confusion, and Paralysis are useless I say give them a stun. A stun that lasts for roughly 3-5 seconds with a 0.5 second cast time, that way it's still possible to cancel it, but it doesn't so long that it'd be as worthless as their other CCs. If they successfully land the stun the Crane will receive a 350 poison(stackable) side effect that lasts for 30 seconds, that way they can't abuse it to win via timer. Despite the annoying DoT draining the Crane's health per use, it will at least give you the small window to Sleep/Freeze lock your opponent thus most of the time giving you the win(assuming you don't screw anything up).
Im not reading that so I'll just say I disagree
Because this thread is about crane.
bEcAUSe tHiS tHrEaD iS aBoUt cRAnE. You wouldnt have commented if you thought that defense rate was a HUGE issue with crane. It has to be something else
We are here for suggestions that's why forum made
Ok but Ulti and Crane have the same issue so why are you only talking about crane? Maybe it's because you do know how strong they are but you want to boost them because you play the class?
Thats up to Daneos and balance team.
It's also up to him to change cranes buff. Your argument is Invalid
Wrong topic. Could a Mod close this thread ty.
Bro, please listen you and others crane has a buff called agile armor which is totally useless with the defense rate cap 20%, why we leave it like that useless?
It needs a change like i said.
You're reccomending that crane gets that buff changed but you're being biased towards crane because ulti has the exact same shit. Why won't you recommend both classes to get the defense rate changed Instead of one. Also you went from talking about Crane needing a stun to Defense Rate....
Will there be any other caps besides 80 in the future?
Will there be any other caps besides 80 in the future?
Do you find it useful?
You sound disappointed. You mentioned Syren and he responded. SIMPLE. It's music to my ears at this point.
THE END BYE
Oh last thing. Ulti has a defense rate passive too so going by your logic It should be changed as well although nothing's wrong with the class without it.
