Low fps with Windows 10

    You shouldn't need to download game boosters or set CPU priority to high or anything like that.


    DBO is a low requirements game that should not be challenging to run.


    Can you please post your laptops specifications?


    All you should need to do is install latest GPU/ APU graphics drivers from the manufacturers website.


    There should be no compatibility issues with Win 10, also try running the game in windowed mode in the games graphics settings.


    Your fps drops may also be lag and not fps drops, try entering a low populated channel and make sure your laptop has the necessary bandwidth to upload/ download to the games global server and sync properly.

    This is one of the best responses i've ever seen.


    Literally the only other thing you could have done is request screenshots of the CPU setup as well as the bandwidth and internet speed results.


    Then everyone has everything to work with. Damn dude you beat me to it :thumbsup:

    I see that you're entitled to your opinion but 30 FPS is standard British television speed.


    If you can focus your mind at watching a movie and playing regular games you have to understand that an MMO is a server that holds a lot of people at once, it won't likely run as a console game would but 30 FPS is more than playable

    Quote from Novuhz

    Please refrain from posting stuff like this before you know what you are talking about lol.
    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-m…it-because-of-motion-blur


    Knowledge is power.


    30 fps in game is unplayable for me, 24 fps in movies looks good because ^ read that link.

    Quote from Cosmo

    I see that you're entitled to your opinion but 30 FPS is standard British television speed.


    If you can focus your mind at watching a movie and playing regular games you have to understand that an MMO is a server that holds a lot of people at once, it won't likely run as a console game would but 30 FPS is more than playable

    I don't think you understand what he's really pointing at.
    @Novuhz rig is packing enough power to run most AAA games at a solid 60 FPS. Games like BF1, TW3 bla bla etc. You get the point.


    A potato game such as DBO, at a technical standpoint, should literally be butchered by this guy's rig. I'm sure he's up to date with all his software, and there's no doubt his hardware can handle DBO at max settings with high FPS.
    His download and upload speed are up to par as well. 30 fps - 60 fps really does make a big difference. You'll usually find people with good PCs saying this often.


    Watching TV and playing games are very different, I don't really understand why you bring that up. But meh.


    As far as I see it, DBO is poorly optimized for mobile desktops.
    My laptop is superior in all specs compared to my PC(which is a mini shitbox btw), but it still runs DBO better than my laptop.
    There could be a number of reasons for that, but I'm pretty sure someone already posted it somewhere in these forums.


    I think people just want a fix. Which is understandable, but I doubt anything will change.

    I understood that aspect completely, lets get that out of the way.


    My point is that the game isn't "ruined" or "un=playable"just because it's 30 FPS (i compared it to standard television because no one seems to complains that their TV is 30 instead of 60)


    I get that it can be frustrating. But the game is in development. You can't expect pristine from a server that is hosted in Germany while you are all likely in america or other countries. Also this is being hosted and worked on by one single person. Even when the game was being run by a fully funded team and company those of us in Europe and america had worse ping and speed than those in Asia where it was hosted.


    You likely won't get "a solid 60 FPS. Games like BF1, TW3 bla bla " because the game is not only 'official' but still in a pre-beta (in development) everything will gradually improve. Having spec means absolutely nothing if you still have to connect to a not great sever on a in development game.


    Let me reiterate it my point, so you can clearly see the gist of what I was speaking of.


    For @Novuhz and I, server latency and the current stage of the server isn't the issue here. I understand what you're saying about the sever not being 100% complete, and the faults and issues that come because of that. However, while running DBO on two different systems; the laptop and the Desktop, under the same WIFI network, the experience differs.


    My PC runs it fine at 60 fps on max settings (even in congested Korrin), whereas my laptop at the most, will put up 40-45 fps in non-dense areas. Personally idc so much about the FPS drop, but I'll certainly like to know what's causing it.


    So we already know, that the DBO application is capable of running at 60 fps. Now the only question is, what's causing our upgraded, more powerful system this fps problem.


    "It's still in development" is a not so resourceful answer.
    Pretty sure the aim of this thread is to seek technical experts here that can actually identify the issue, and if there is one; perhaps find a solution.

    In that case it's something to do with your system, i have a desktop PC, windows 7 laptop and a windows 10 laptop and they all run the same on my accounts and my sisters.


    If your saying the problem is in your system why have you not provided screenshots of drivers, performance ratings, and specifications of your hardware. We'll only be able to find out what it is if you give us the details.


    We so far have his specs:
    "Specs:
    GTX 1070
    i5 4690k @ 4.3 ghz
    Windows 10
    16gb ram 1600mhz
    Internet: Fiber Optic 120mb download / 10mb upload"

    Not his location (which may very well be his lag problem as the server was moved further away from the american audience)
    His driver updates may be conflicting.
    Or it could also be his windows update or firewall.


    We also do not know if he has 1 or 2 systems (one of which runs better or not, that's your issue)


    Not sure if you mean to but you seem to be trying to shut me up instead of trying to help yourself and Novuhz in par with me. If that's the case i simply ask you to not do so. If i've read your intentions wrong then could you comply so we can figure out what's happening?


    For the love of god, can someone who has been in this forum longer than I tell me if this guy is just a troll? or trying to be funny?


    This guy doesn't even know how to distinguish between latency and frames per second.


    These are legit problems with the game and he is like just defending it and calling our computer/internet crap like wtf?


    and I didn't give you any opinion on my post I gave you facts and knowledge how fps in television/movies is not the same as gaming, you clearly ignored it and called it a 'opinion'.


    I can pretty much run most games at +100 fps on ultra settings. When one single game gives problems please don't go telling people it's their computer and their drivers are not updated, for you 30 fps might be fine but for me it's unplayable and I won't touch a game that runs like crap.


    Hell even Battlefield 1 runs around 120-130 fps, Overwatch runs way past 144 fps, The Witcher 3 around 80-90 fps all these on Ultra settings.


    I'm not even sure why I'm bothering replying to him... >_>


    Look how much CPU and GPU this game is using, and look at that top left number which is fps it keeps going from 30 fps to 60 fps to 30 to 60 non stop. Also moving the camera around stutters a lot.
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    The main reason why it is lagging is because DBOG isn't rendered well. The game was released in 2009 and windows 10 was released years later. DBO always had these kind of issues with low FPS due to the old company doing a very bad job in rendering the game. I can run games like CS GO at 200-300 FPS which is enough but here I experience a lot of lag spikes. It could be due to FPS limit, as far as I remember it is 60 here.

    So are you going to provide your driver updates and such like i requested or not?


    If you're so intent on running the game as best you can then we need to know that. With all due respect get your personal feelings towards anyone out of this and just supply them.


    The reason i'm asking is because other users have had problems with lag and such. When we compared updates and drivers with them we found other users had different ones. Once changed the game ran smoother.

    Quote from Cosmo

    So are you going to provide your driver updates and such like i requested or not?
    If you're so intent on running the game as best you can then we need to know that. With all due respect get your personal feelings towards anyone out of this and just supply them.


    The reason i'm asking is because other users have had problems with lag and such. When we compared updates and drivers with them we found other users had different ones. Once changed the game ran smoother.


    ''other users have had problems with lag''


    I have no idea why you keep insisting I have lag issues. No I do not have any lag issues with the game, the latency on this game is around 50-60ms for me.


    Once again... Lag =/= Fps they are different things.


    And dude my computer is always up to date, I don't use antivirus programs and I even have windows firewall off to get best performance out of online gaming. I have every shity app that is useless in Windows 10 turned off, my computer is set to best possible performance as I told you before but I will tell you again: Battlefield 1 runs around 120-130 fps, CS:GO runs around 250-260 fps, Overwatch runs way past 144 fps, The Witcher 3 around 80-90 fps all these on Ultra settings.


    I wonder why I keep replying to this dude, it has nothing to do with personal feelings, it's just you are posting without a clue of what you are talking about and that makes you look like a troll, it all started out with:


    ''That's not bad at all. 30 FPS is what television runs at.''


    ''My point is that the game isn't "ruined" or "un=playable"just because it's 30 FPS (i compared it to standard television because no one seems to complains that their TV is 30 instead of 60)''


    and again with the ''lag'' problem that you insist


    ''Not his location (which may very well be his lag problem as the server was moved further away from the american audience)''


    Do I really have to explain the difference between rendering fps in-games versus fps in movies once again? Can you not get some knowledge from the link I posted or you are just going to ignore it and call it a opinion? Are you another one of those guys who says there's no difference between 30 fps to 60 fps to 144 fps?


    My post in this thread was basically a bug report of how bad the game runs on Windows 10 with very powerful computer. Then you come around and say 30 fps is fine, you probably have latency issues, you don't have drivers up to date, you are not helping the fact is the game runs and renders terrible, the game engine is just terrible.


    Do you know who you sound like? The Customer Support of some other games I had to deal with in the past like Blizzard, and in the end it was always a problem in their side. No I'm not your average user that thinks his cheap laptop should run every game... I've been dealing with computers for more than 27 years and I've always built my own computer and do my own troubleshooting. I'm sorry if I do sound upset or mad to you but I can't stand when someone who has no idea what he is talking about talks like he knows everything and he is right on everything and acting like a fanboy towards this game.


    As the other guy said: Pretty sure the aim of this thread is to seek technical experts here that can actually identify the issue, and if there is one; perhaps find a solution.

    Listen lass, Low FPS is also known as lag( It's called visual lag. Not input lag which is also what most users on this forum complain about having)


    Now are you going to provide the information i've asked for to actually help you (i'm not giving you bullshit requests, you work through what you know how to fix step by step so we can figure it out as a process of elimination)


    And your computer being fully up to date could actually be the problem here. Don't just assume that because i asked you for the drivers that i want you to update them all. Some graphic card drivers cause this game problems (huh who would have thought i asked you something that i could have used to help you)


    If you still insist on saying i'm not listening to you (when i am. i just don't give a crap about your computer running other games because those don't mean anything in relation to this one. So therefore means absolutely nothing when discussing THIS games issues. "Battlefield 1 runs around 120-130 fps, CS:GO runs around 250-260 fps, Overwatch runs way past 144 fps, The Witcher 3 around 80-90 fps all these on Ultra settings." ) Then i'm just not going to reply further. No one can help you if you don't provide things we can use to work it out.

    ''Listen lass, Low FPS is also known as lag( It's called visual lag. Not input lag which is also what most users on this forum complain about having)'' ????? See below what you said in one of your posts...
    Cosmo: ''Not his location (which may very well be his lag problem as the server was moved further away from the american audience)''
    ??????? and visual lag? that's new... you still have a lot to learn :)


    Yes please do not reply any further, we don't need your ''no one complains about 30 fps in TV's'' knowledge, and sorry only people who don't know much about computers use the word lag to FPS problems.
    In online gaming, lag is a noticeable delay between the action of players and the reaction of the server in a videogame.


    You also totally missed the point of this thread which is to help/show the developers of this game see how bad it runs in good computers and as the title said ''Windows 10'' find the fix to their bad game engine... like the other guy said: Pretty sure the aim of this thread is to seek technical experts here that can actually identify the issue, and if there is one; perhaps find a solution.

    Okay fine lets play it this way.


    ' ????? See below what you said in one of your posts...Cosmo: ''Not his location (which may very well be his lag problem as the server was moved further away from the american audience)''
    And what about what i said? this whole time i've been talking about the lag being visual. not once did you mention a delay in button inputs and game actions. My point stands, the visual problems you are having may because the server being far away from you can't send pristine data back and fourth at the speeds you desire because it's sub-par and not big-shot company quality.


    "You also totally missed the point of this thread which is to help/show the developers of this game see how bad it runs in good computers and as the title said ''Windows 10'' find the fix to their bad game engine... like the other guy said: Pretty sure the aim of this thread is to seek technical experts here that can actually identify the issue, and if there is one; perhaps find a solution."


    In that case why have you not provided your setup and information to show what you are running so we can compare it with what is already on other threads? And "To show developers" why have you not recorded and shown video so we can see it? I'm trying to help you but you're being awkward on what seems purpose. Oh and guess what, there are not "Technical experts" for this game because it's being worked on by 1 (yes O-N-E) person doing all of the coding, while us users are doing the testing. We report and provide evidence of bugs and issues so that he can see and figure it out. The problem here is you not complying and helping not only me but other users and yourself. I'm not going to bother responding to this nonsense if you reply with the same kind of reply here because you've just helped me run this thread into the ground by not co-operating when i've asked in at least 3 different threads for you to supply something that will take you less that 2 minutes to do (or in your over 27 years in computers do you think you know everything on your computer can't be the issue when this game is still in an alpha?)

    Quote from Novuhz

    ''Listen lass, Low FPS is also known as lag( It's called visual lag. Not input lag which is also what most users on this forum complain about having)'' ????? See below what you said in one of your posts...Cosmo: ''Not his location (which may very well be his lag problem as the server was moved further away from the american audience)''


    Yes please do not reply any further, we don't need your ''no one complains about 30 fps in TV's'' knowledge, and sorry only people who don't know much about computers use the word lag to FPS problems.
    In online gaming, lag is a noticeable delay between the action of players and the reaction of the server in a videogame.


    You also totally missed the point of this thread which is to help/show the developers of this game see how bad it runs in good computers and as the title said ''Windows 10'' find the fix to their bad game engine... like the other guy said: Pretty sure the aim of this thread is to seek technical experts here that can actually identify the issue, and if there is one; perhaps find a solution.

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