Automatically lvl 33 book/stone

    The stone was released October 1st-7th. The game was not out for months, closed betas? Yup. But the full game was not out for MONTHS like you're lying about. Idk why i'm still responding to you lmfao. You lied so much you believe them. And you doubt that I got a stone in TW?? Um. Okay? From what basis? The way you talk and the reasons you say the stone is "broken" I doubt that you've ever played and nobody knows you so it must be true right?

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    Open. Beta. You said it yourself.

    Quote from CritAholic

    The stone was released October 1st-7th. The game was not out for months, closed betas? Yup. But the full game was not out for MONTHS like you're lying about.

    full game was never released u should know they closed and abandoned lots of projects
    Taiwan 2011 15/june/2011 -31/10/2013 Open Beta


    why u speak about closed betas? facepalm


    what is gona be launch here try to guess? yes open beta! welcome to the debate we are comparing same situations,
    TW open beta vs Daneos open beta


    in one situation they added stone after 3 months and half, tell me where is the false info because u write too much and read nothing


    TW SERVER OPEN BETA LAUNCH FOR EVERYONE, WITH NO WIPES, WITH NO CHAR DELETION , STONE ADDED = 3 MONTHS AND HALF AFTER


    DANEOS SERVER OPEN BETA LAUNCH FOR EVERYONE , WITH NO WIPES, WITH NO CHAR DELETION , STONE ADDED = ??????


    Now got it?

    You didn't claim that the stones gave you all these magical powers that you will rule AH, and you'll be able to get so much more than everybody else. Judging from your complaints, you were saying it as if his open beta started off at level 70 max. But now you're trying to compare it to the TW Open beta where it was level 38. So you want to take the time that TW was in Open beta with a 38 Cap and try to say it was 3 months. 3 months since DBO came out? Sure. But the points you're arguing is that the stones give too much of an advantage for budokai, for AH, for reaching level 70 before others...so why wouldn't you start the countdown for stones when level 55 came out. At the end of AUGUST. So don't try to make it convenient for yourself trying to make a level cap for one, and use a different one to compare. If the open beta daneos makes is 38, why would the stones be added? That is dumb. So since we're going on your arguments and "points", you're acting as if the open beta will be level 70. So either you're gonna abandon your original points because now you want to compare level 38 cap to 38, or just move around and think of different points.

    Quote from Rob

    I honestly never understand what this guy is ever saying.

    yep when i give u arguments, u say, its not solid
    when i give u true facts,u say, i dont understand
    lol what part of this u dont understand tell me please because is very clear


    In Taiwan open beta , stone was released 3 months and half after the server was launched



    my english is not grammatically perfect but seems like i have to write in hieroglyph to u understand it...

    I understand what you're saying clearly. But for you to compare TW open Beta, which started at level 38 right? In June, just like you said; correct? But all of the complaints and reasons you gave in this thread were based towards level 70 end game. (Budokai, AH monopoly, Best Gear, Huge level advantage you'll reach level 70 faster). You've been arguing with people back and forth saying if it only takes a day to level to 30, why buy the stone because you'll just get 70 faster right? All of this is in this thread, all points that you have made where you take the position that DANEOS OPEN BETA will be level 70 cap.


    So if you assume Daneos open beta will be level 70, why would you try to compare the level 38 Open beta for TW in June just to make the statement that the actual level 55 didn't come until late august. Wouldn't you start the timer there, since the level caps are atleast somewhat similar? So no, the stone didn't come after 3 months of playing at level 55. It came after 2 months at 38, and a month at 55. So you can either make new points because you want to compare 38 to 38, or just stop. If you want to talk to me about level 38 cap to level 38 cap, i'll say in a heart beat what is the point of having the stone when the max would be 38? What would be the point. But if it's level 70, keep your same points, and recognize that the stones came 1 month after 55 patch. Not 3 and a half.


    It's not bashing you, or nothing of the sorts. But don't switch and hop lanes from 38 cap, to 70 cap, and act like the same issues exist in both of them. I can understand your side better if you stick to one cap, and use facts from those caps. If you said "Hey, I think the stone should be added a month after open beta because it came a month after level 55 cap in TW" I'd be like, okay that's a valid point. But you made it seem as if the stone came sooooo long after the max level patch was out. You included the time from 38 patch, and used that to make the time span longer than it actually was if we're comparing like you said.

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    You didn't claim that the stones gave you all these magical powers that you will rule AH, and you'll be able to get so much more than everybody else. Judging from your complaints, you were saying it as if his open beta started off at level 70 max. But now you're trying to compare it to the TW Open beta where it was level 38.

    Ok thats other subject, i just speculated what could happen giving stones at the beginning with no cap level, all this based on my opinion and experience thats it, then other ppl started to speak about cap lvl for me thats totally other condition, and please dont exagerate what i say, i said that u can get good amounts of zenis if u are used to AH, and for my thats one of the possibles advantages , maybe u or other guy wont take that chance, but dont forget in this game are many experts and maybe "asian farmers" will do it with big pleasure, who knows? the possibility exist, thats what i stated from the beginning and some guy jumped like im a heretic and said, NO , i wont accept wait 2 days , not even 1 day. so ok i said ppl from taiwan server waited 3 months and half...and i will repeat but last time i dont agree adding stones from the beginning with no lvl cap, and with lvl cap its other subject that im not gona give my opinion until theres some confirmation about cap leveling to dont waste more time.

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    Ok thats other subject, i just speculated what could happen giving stones at the beginning with no cap level, all this based on my opinion and experience thats it, then other ppl started to speak about cap lvl for me thats totally other condition, and please dont exagerate what i say, i said that u can get good amounts of zenis if u are used to AH, and for my thats one of the possibles advantages , maybe u or other guy wont take that chance, but dont forget in this game are many experts and maybe "asian farmers" will do it with big pleasure, who knows? the possibility exist, thats what i stated from the beginning and some guy jumped like im a heretic and said, NO , i wont accept wait 2 days , not even 1 day. so ok i said ppl from taiwan server waited 3 months and half...

    Okay, and I can understand those points you said. Things are better, and more clear when you stick with one side. You were jumping from level 38 cap, to level 70 cap, and then back. Each cap has different problems with the stone, and that all depends on what this Open beta will be. Another thing you're forgetting is that the people of Taiwan only had the level 55 cap for 1 month before the stone came out. So that is my point to that. I don't count the level 38 cap because it logically doesn't make sense for a 38 cap to have a level up 33 stone. I didn't exaggerate anything you said, the posts are still in this thread. Your points that you made were clearly aimed as if the open beta would be level 70 cap.

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