Make SOL and STR useful again!

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Souls gives 2 energy attack to turtles idk others

yeh it prob affects classes differently my ma gets 1.5 enegy attk.

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Still quite bad, +1 to a lvl 30 SubWeapon gives you a +10 on both E.Attack and Energy Attack, so it is quite useless to say that 5 or more Soul = +1 Pink Stone Maybe if 1 Soul gave a +5 or +10, they would be much more useful, and Plasma will probably enjoy getting 17 SOUL level 42 Armor (I think it was 42) on every piece of armor and weapon/Subweapon Which will total out to 85 Soul or 425/850 Energy Attack, that would actually be nice for Plasmas, Karmas probably still need to get FOC for their awesome debuffs!

poko lol they get like 100soul from their skill tree but pokos are mostly know for attk speed%.

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if ur confused how u hve no clue on how it maxes sense for dex giving crit rate, cause it gives dodge and bit of Resistance which has got nothin to related to giving crit, badass has the perfect answer as mentioned earlier 'Fighters STRIVE for DEX! Unlike Swordsman, they dont have a buff that increases their CRIT HITRATE as good as SMs. Fighters need DEX to keep up with the CRIT RATE of Swordsman. On the other hand, Swordsman dont have as much DEX, which makes them unable to do as much Dodging, so they use DEX for that!'
My response.
Fighter need to hve dex to give them crit rate unlike SM they a crit rate passive.
and btw SM have more crit rate then fighters thanks to the passive.
SM: land more crits
Fighters: better dmg with crits.
thats the only difference.

Frogturtle You are comparing real life logic to a virtual game cuz of of the dex thinge. 'DEX is also OP, giving p.crit rate(no clue how it makes sense for DEX) dodge rate, and status resistance rate.'

i can give u many examples of real life logic to a virtual game
- why mighty and ulti majins have spin i mean boo never used it but goku was the first one in the manga ? human should had the spin technique not majins?
- humans should learn masenko since gohan learned it from piccolo?
-Kid buu should hve IT he used to destroy planets within secs.
-Cranes should learn solar flare as its a crane hermit move which was used by Tien.

the game has a certain mechanics which are meant for the game not real life logic.
e.g Fight has solar flare since its a class focused around dodge.

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first of all, its *frod, you piece of shit.

Now, about fighter and SM, you said:

SM: land more crits
Fighters: better dmg with crits.

Say the DEX has crit rate instead of STR which balances it with SM passive crit rate. Now both will land about equal crits right? So, now fighters will do more crits as well as better crits as you said. Is it what you call balanced?

Do you think the FOC in SM is balancing the DEX with fighters? If fighters stack DEX with gear, do you think SM stacking FOC to be able to land hits is a good idea?

And what about the damage of needle? And thunder speed? Don't you think fighter has other good stuff instead of that passive crit? SMs only got crit. And with current STR, they are shit.

Ima just ask you this: are both classes balanced with current DEX and their skills?

I think we are going little off-topic. The point is to make SOUL and STR useful. With only att. increase, they are useless.

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first of all, its *frod, you piece of shit.
Now, about fighter and SM, you said:

SM: land more crits
Fighters: better dmg with crits.

Say the DEX has crit rate instead of STR which balances it with SM passive crit rate. Now both will land about equal crits right? So, now fighters will do more crits as well as better crits as you said. Is it what you call balanced?

Do you think the FOC in SM is balancing the DEX with fighters? If fighters stack DEX with gear, do you think SM stacking FOC to be able to land hits is a good idea?

And what about the damage of needle? And thunder speed? Don't you think fighter has other good stuff instead of that passive crit? SMs only got crit. And with current STR, they are shit.

Ima just ask you this: are both classes balanced with current DEX and their skills?

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how dare u call me a piece of shit frogturtle
i agree that needles do more dmg but fighters need some form of crit rate
to balance that either remove the 50% crit dmg they if they land a crit from behind to 20% crit dmg if they land a crit from behind.??

i mean if Dan changes str to give crits again wouldnt SM get 1 crit rate buff, 1 crit rate passive, 70str. all they would hve to do is follow wat Kiwinskk did and wear all con, we dont want a DPS running around acting like a mini tank. i also know that fighters can tank with this dex giving crits. the main thing that should happen here is REBLANCE EVERYTHING CUZ DBO IS WAY OF BALANCE.

i have an idea @Daneos you can but a vote for example , or you can figure out something xD.

Hi everyone. This is Marlboro.

I wanna know Why dodge is not work of skills. This is a biggest problem currently.

And nobody talk about damage caculation.

I think All user are over power. Because Glove or Staff + sub weapon damage = Total damage.

even auto attack, basic job's skills, Master class skills.

This game is not shooting game.

And I dont think Speed Fighter will good.

Dash lag and bug, lacation lag and bug make auto attack hard.

and samll bug.

When rank battle 1 or 2 round you hitted by turtle reduce speed curse and die.

reduce speed curse effect still remaining next round.

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Hi everyone. This is Marlboro.

I wanna know Why dodge is not work of skills. This is a biggest problem currently.

And nobody talk about damage caculation.

I think All user are over power. Because Glove or Staff + sub weapon damage = Total damage.

even auto attack, basic job's skills, Master class skills.

This game is not shooting game.

And I dont think Speed Fighter will good.

Dash lag and bug, lacation lag and bug make auto attack hard.

and samll bug.

When rank battle 1 or 2 round you hitted by turtle reduce speed curse and die.

reduce speed curse effect still remaining next round.

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I agree, nor the damage nor the defenses are correct, nor the attack speed is worth using, the slow is the natural worst enemy for fighters.

To avoid getting slowed dont buff yourself starting the fight, just dash and immediatly + quick attack, then 1 buff or charge RP and KD to avoid losing the kidney shot stun. However everything will be fixed i hope, pvp it's worth nothing actually.

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Speed Fighters = OVERUSED!I dont have anything against it, but they are over used.

was jk about that comment btw xd

swordsmen are bae too ♥☺

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Yeah, but still Even if people say it is unfair, well, that's why stats are there!
Stats are made for people to max them out and look very OP in one attribute of the game.
Fighters MAX their DEX all the time, Cranes regularly go to MAX their FOC.
I hope if any change would happen to SOL and STR, the change can make people consider them long enough to actually MAX them out on certain classes!

Wow. That is a good fucking point.

Every class should have its stat they should max on.

Fighter- Dex
Turtle - Sol
Swordsmen- Str
SK- Con
(Idk much about maijins or dendes, never played them) but, I do agree with that, b4 da $$.

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Hi everyone. This is Marlboro.

I wanna know Why dodge is not work of skills. This is a biggest problem currently.

And nobody talk about damage caculation.

I think All user are over power. Because Glove or Staff + sub weapon damage = Total damage.

even auto attack, basic job's skills, Master class skills.

This game is not shooting game.

And I dont think Speed Fighter will good.

Dash lag and bug, lacation lag and bug make auto attack hard.

and samll bug.

When rank battle 1 or 2 round you hitted by turtle reduce speed curse and die.

reduce speed curse effect still remaining next round.

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Global Update Thread

ok guys now fighter have:
1 teier 200% dodge rate
2 DEX: dodge
crit hit rate
crit power
so he have hight dodge hight crit rate hight damage of crit
and thunder so hight speed attac

sw have : focus: energy cirt (uslessssss on sw)
hit rate

now this is balancedd???

Just let it as the original DBO

I just agree a bit with swordmik, Focus on sword giving energy crit is kinda useless and hard to make an build. Sword have 17 crit passive but fighters have 50 dex, thats close to the sword crit, and they even dodge more. I want to build dex on my sword but i won't Dodge like a fighter, and build Focus but for what? Hit rate for mobs? Energy crit for phys attacks?

I have noticed in many MMOs and MOBAs through the years that crit rate and crit damage always cause an unbalance.

I believe the secret is to balance crit rate and damage to do the same amount as non crit rate and damage focused builds. This can be done by either nerfing crit damage or crit rate or both to where the devs and community believes it is not overpowered.

Easier said than done. Either give everyone a viable crit build AND non-crit build. Or increase the risked involved for playing a crit dependent class by nerfing base damages of said class/s.

Anyway I'm still mad impressed by what the devs have done with this game. Good job guys.