Some ideas

Quote from belkobb

I have some ideas.1st is tail like saiyan or monkey tail like accrosory 3 or something.2nd is more super saiyan levels like super saiyan 2-3 or super saiyan blue-3rd is frieza class think this will be cool to add.

1. You can do that with mods, I think, but I don't know if we have that officially.
2. Now tell what kinda transformations you would give Namek and Majin to balance transformation count?
3. I agree, but people say it kinda impossible to move Frieza race into DBO even there is space to do that.

Hi, you've pointed out three topics that re-appear weekly or sometimes daily in the forums.
For most of the things the answer is no: Daneos struggles a lot already with the old game and adding new features is not planned.
Of course this could change in the future for minor things (aesthetics) but entire new race and new transformations is a hell of work (balancing, design, coding.... I'm not even done).

Please check the forums before you post
Thank you

thank you arubaru I recommend you close this thread

Quote from SViper

1. You can do that with mods, I think, but I don't know if we have that officially.2. Now tell what kinda transformations you would give Namek and Majin to balance transformation count?
3. I agree, but people say it kinda impossible to move Frieza race into DBO even there is space to do that.

I know this is an old thread but it caught my attention and I've thought a lot about the transformation question.
To begin, I think this game is already very unfair when it comes to transformations since Super Saiyan has the obious upper hand by being able to use all the skills in the build; and to actually have to upgrade new skills after you have a full build created for a transformation that will last 10 minutes and cooldown in 1 hour seem insane to me. However, i also get that there is a lot of work in progress right now and unfortunately it was made like this from stock and all.
But I still feel like sharing my idea, even though it might just die in this thread unless this game has some skilled enough team of programmers and art department. Not to offend anyone, that would be the least I want, but games usually take big companies backing them up and paying people to do this. Not to mention that it is a one person opinion. Or so i think. i am talking out of my ass right now. Just forget that part and continue reading.
I believe the first transformation for Saiyans should have been great ape; like in the one kid Gohan or Vegeta become on TMQ4 i think, can't remember well. I guess that makes a lot more sense than Super Saiyan, since all saiyans before Goku and even Gohan, were able to do it and that is their very nature; Shenron should be able to handle that if he can make Super Saiyan possible for the current Saiyans. Now, the differecen between this transformation and Super Saiyan would be that, like the Great Namek and Pure Majin transformations, Great Apes would have limited skills (2 or 3 max). Also, it should be on par with its counter parts from the other races when it comes to stats.
Now, of course at this point you may say "then what about Super Saiyan, does it get eliminated?". Of course no. There are other transformations, and have always been, for the other races. Did you forget about Super Buu?! or the transformations that Piccolo went through when he fused with both Kami and Nail!? I mean there are other transformations for those two races and they could be easily achieved with wishes like Super Saiyan and still be able to use the entire build.
The biggest chanllenge here would be to create a Super Buu with Super Boobs
Anyway, there are already models for the Great Apes, and Namek transformation is fine with just having some sparks around like the ones on +12 armors and weapons. I am making reference to the fight of Piccolo vs Imperfect Cell (

)
just to give an idea of what I imagine it could look like. But, the real deal would be a Super Buu model for both female and male characters that resemble the original models of every player. Although I am pretty sure there are some amazingly skilled guys out there that make mods for their games all the time and would like to be part of a project like this just for the fun and experience. Right!?
A Saiyan tail would go perfect with the wish for Great Ape.
And as for the Super saiyan 2 and up transformations I would agree that it might not work for this game, so I won't even go over that. And another race would be mind blowing, but it is a lot more than we can wish for right now.

Thank you for reading my coment. If you made it all the way here let me know what you think .
Here is a Saiyan potato

Hi @Raspasoti,

Storywise, it wouldn't made sense for dbog humans to transform into Great Apes, as even Goten and Trunks (Half Saiyans) were already born without a saiyan tail. DBOG Humans have a really slow percentage of saiyan blood, so their inner saiyan heritage - great ape - is quite lost.

Super Saiyan on the other hand is kind of an awakening of potential kind of transformation: in the series you could make a parallel with the power-ups Krillin and Gohan got in Namek Planet or even Gohan's power-up into Mystic form. It helps release a hidden potential.

In terms of balance, the same answer applies. It would be a lot of work for not so much gameplay improvement in my opinion.
We should learn something about Dragon Ball Super - even for those that don't stand it or don't watch it - transformations lose importance once you focus on strategy and teamwork, which are pinnacles of MMOs (remember this is a basic MMO with DB skins).

Cheers,

Aru

My suggestion would be to add an extra skill point once per 10 or 5 level up to make a little difference and more variety in creating a desired build.
Also. Could reduce all the Paralize, stun, candy things /2 - it's stupid, silly and ridiculus it's kidlike, makes a boring chess competition and was created without properly thinking. thanks

Quote from Aru

Hi @Raspasoti,

Storywise, it wouldn't made sense for dbog humans to transform into Great Apes, as even Goten and Trunks (Half Saiyans) were already born without a saiyan tail. DBOG Humans have a really slow percentage of saiyan blood, so their inner saiyan heritage - great ape - is quite lost.

Super Saiyan on the other hand is kind of an awakening of potential kind of transformation: in the series you could make a parallel with the power-ups Krillin and Gohan got in Namek Planet or even Gohan's power-up into Mystic form. It helps release a hidden potential.

In terms of balance, the same answer applies. It would be a lot of work for not so much gameplay improvement in my opinion.
We should learn something about Dragon Ball Super - even for those that don't stand it or don't watch it - transformations lose importance once you focus on strategy and teamwork, which are pinnacles of MMOs (remember this is a basic MMO with DB skins).

Cheers,

Aru

Display More

I really don't see how it is an awakining of power like you say when it is abiously being atained by a wish and not training like it used to be back in Goku's time. But even so, if Shenron can make inmortality possible, bring the dead back to life, bring a whole planet back after being destroyed, etc giving a tail to a human with Saiyan blood should not be much of a problem. I mean, the wishes as they are right now are pretty lame, only the transformations and bufs are worth the hustle. All the other wishes are not even worth grinding for. Also, if we are talking about things that do not make sense Pure Majin for a Majin that is not Buu itself should be impossible because they never absorved anyone and they were never in pure state to begin with. Majins in the game are the way they are from the begining. The same goes for Super namek, it si only atained after a wish is granted by Shenron. But I really think that these things would improve the gamepleay because they are elements from the series and also because they give diversity to the races themselves and would be a great way to valance the overwhelming difference between Great Namek and Pure Majin have vs Super Saiyan. It is not a matter of how they acchieve this anymore.
Also, you might want to consider things like these in the future when the game starts to die and people get bored of only being able to do so much. Ideas like this give a spin to the game and make players want to continue after playing for several years. That is something I came to realize after playing the game for 2 years straight and seing it evolve many times. I would always get me one more time and make want to continue. And I would really pay to play something that is worth it, if that is what it takes. Even if it is by buying cash items or donating. People do it all the time with other games, so I don't see why they would not do it. But that would be up to you guys to do things like that, we can only suggest.
Another suggestion, since we are already at it. I think the upgrade of the Pure Majin and Great Namek skills is obsolete and means a great disadvantage against Saiyans. If you think about it no one uses these transformations for anything else other than showing off and the upgrade messes with the actual build because the skill points are limitted. On the other hand if they upgraded automatically with the level of the character then it might actually gain some usefulness to it bacause it would not take extra skill points vs the Super Saiyan that uses the full build and has unlimitted time of use.

And I get that team work is the key to secceding in any MMO, because every race and mastery is different from the others and each one is unique and better at something than the rest. But individual strenght is also very important and when you have a superior race, to call it somehow, people get disapointed to find out that they should have chose the other race and not the one they worked all this time for.
Peace and Love
Keep the good work.
PD: I wish we had some Dragon Ball emoticons in this Forum.

I agree with you raspasoti, espeacially the great namek, it is useless. A 1h wait for a 10min boost is nothing compared with Ss. Tankers (yes only sk and dw actually use gn, maybe poko too) only use them when you come fight with a boss, but again, its usless because you can only use it for 1 boss. Its unfair that a certain class gets more benefits than the others, you can literally spam Ss with no drawbacks. Max cooldown on gn is 18min. But even then, you walk slow, cant fly, only have 2 skills...heck thats why we mainly only see humans in-game, which sucks. Transformation on nameks and majins are really flawed since everyone probably even devs favor humans.

In any case, suggesting things like this will never happen, not because its impossible to code or change, but because they simply do not care.

Peace

I can see where you're coming from at the first part but it's canon that this shenron has had his power drastically reduced on purpose so that people can't abuse his power anymore. That is why we have set wishes. Dende placed a limit on the wishes he could grant to stop people taking advantage. Thus no immortality wishes and such.

Quote from Raspasoti

I really don't see how it is an awakining of power like you say when it is abiously being atained by a wish and not training like it used to be back in Goku's time. But even so, if Shenron can make inmortality possible, bring the dead back to life, bring a whole planet back after being destroyed, etc giving a tail to a human with Saiyan blood should not be much of a problem. I mean, the wishes as they are right now are pretty lame, only the transformations and bufs are worth the hustle. All the other wishes are not even worth grinding for. Also, if we are talking about things that do not make sense Pure Majin for a Majin that is not Buu itself should be impossible because they never absorved anyone and they were never in pure state to begin with. Majins in the game are the way they are from the begining. The same goes for Super namek, it si only atained after a wish is granted by Shenron. But I really think that these things would improve the gamepleay because they are elements from the series and also because they give diversity to the races themselves and would be a great way to valance the overwhelming difference between Great Namek and Pure Majin have vs Super Saiyan. It is not a matter of how they acchieve this anymore.
Also, you might want to consider things like these in the future when the game starts to die and people get bored of only being able to do so much. Ideas like this give a spin to the game and make players want to continue after playing for several years. That is something I came to realize after playing the game for 2 years straight and seing it evolve many times. I would always get me one more time and make want to continue. And I would really pay to play something that is worth it, if that is what it takes. Even if it is by buying cash items or donating. People do it all the time with other games, so I don't see why they would not do it. But that would be up to you guys to do things like that, we can only suggest.
Another suggestion, since we are already at it. I think the upgrade of the Pure Majin and Great Namek skills is obsolete and means a great disadvantage against Saiyans. If you think about it no one uses these transformations for anything else other than showing off and the upgrade messes with the actual build because the skill points are limitted. On the other hand if they upgraded automatically with the level of the character then it might actually gain some usefulness to it bacause it would not take extra skill points vs the Super Saiyan that uses the full build and has unlimitted time of use.

And I get that team work is the key to secceding in any MMO, because every race and mastery is different from the others and each one is unique and better at something than the rest. But individual strenght is also very important and when you have a superior race, to call it somehow, people get disapointed to find out that they should have chose the other race and not the one they worked all this time for.
Peace and Love
Keep the good work.
PD: I wish we had some Dragon Ball emoticons in this Forum.

Display More

Right, Dende.