(IMO) How to properly balance ranked PvP

Quote from Sendoku

Why prodige complains he plays fkn karma like lol

complaining about what ? i know that you meaned that it is brainless class but it is ok !!

Quote from FreddyK

Anti crit is nowhere close to what it was before, anti crit gloves aren't here yet

Anti crit is more than OP to say the least right now , imagine if we get Anti Crit gloves ? Fighters will literally be nothing that way...

First Things First

Now on server:

1 DEX = 5 Dodge
1 FOC = 10 Hit Rate.

Before we do something else

This must be changed

Thees Stats are antagonist from each other.
They must give the same amount on Dodge and Hit Rate

1 DEX = 10 Dodge
1 FOC = 10 Hit Rate.

or

1 DEX = 5 Dodge
1 FOC = 5 Hit Rate.

Dont know wich one will be better but is the idea.
Any effort we make trying to balane classess will dont work until this basic premise is balanced

There is nothing that can be made to balance classes if this doesnt change.

Quote from mrhunt11

First Things First

Now on server:

1 DEX = 5 Dodge
1 FOC = 10 Hit Rate.

Before we do something else

This must be changed

Thees Stats are antagonist from each other.
They must give the same amount on Dodge and Hit Rate

1 DEX = 10 Dodge
1 FOC = 10 Hit Rate.

or

1 DEX = 5 Dodge
1 FOC = 5 Hit Rate.

Dont know wich one will be better but is the idea.
Any effort we make trying to balane classess will dont work until this basic premise is balanced

There is nothing that can be made to balance classes if this doesnt change.

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That is actually kinda accurate , I don't think that'll even be enough xD , but the problem isn't totally that . In the tw version 1500 Dodge Rate used to make fun of 1500 Hit rate , but now , Having up to 2000 Dodge Rate is almost considered like nothing compared to 1500 Hit Rate , So , What should be applied here is give Dodge a lot more Value when it's against Hit rate to help making balance . But yeah before considering all of that , what you said is overall true and should be prioritized over that .

1 dex should = 15 dodge

while Foc should stay the same

Quote from adrian on fire

1 dex should = 15 dodge

while Foc should stay the same

Please tell me you're joking.

Quote from adrian on fire

1 dex should = 15 dodge

while Foc should stay the same

hahaah in your dreams at most it should be even 1 foc=10 success and 1 dex = 10 dodge.

1 Dex = 15 Dodge
That wont fix anything

In fact, it'll make the whole "lucky dodge" thing not become lucky anymore... it'll straight up be fighters dodging almost 100% of the attacks.

it was like that in TW HK KR you barely have to stack focus to hit some one with high dex

My second suggestion is to revert the Dodge pots from 300% Dodge increase to 150% or 125% increase with no cooldown

Quote from Ace_ove_spades

hahaah in your dreams at most it should be even 1 foc=10 success and 1 dex = 10 dodge.

Didn't NTL already try that and players found that to be incredibly broken?

Quote from BlazingBarrager

Didn't NTL already try that and players found that to be incredibly broken?

dodge pot nerf fix that

Quote from adrian on fire

My second suggestion is to revert the Dodge pots from 300% Dodge increase to 150% or 125% increase with no cooldown

To be honest , I liked you first suggestion more than the second , the first one may be exaggerated but maybe with some modifications to make it reasonable , It'll hopefully work .

Quote from Sirab

Months have passed since this thread and finally dodge and resistance is now atleast good and speed works great now. But it still seems to me SK is the still the most dominant class in PvP also seen Fighters miss on SKs quite often which is just pathetic.

Sk ain't dominant at all.

Karmas and fighters are, vs karma you really need super good confuse accessory and still you will get confusion.

Ofc, there is critics, stun, skill lock, petrify lmao... Trust me, nothing to do.

Fighters, they one shot everything and if they can't, speed and kill, np.

Sk does have 100 more dodge now, 410 last time I check and it had 310 before,

Still it is rare to see that SK dodge at all, if it happen to you, call it bad luck.

Quote from Iceman

Sk ain't dominant at all.

Karmas and fighters are, vs karma you really need super good confuse accessory and still you will get confusion.

Ofc, there is critics, stun, skill lock, petrify lmao... Trust me, nothing to do.

Fighters, they one shot everything and if they can't, speed and kill, np.

Sk does have 100 more dodge now, 410 last time I check and it had 310 before,

Still it is rare to see that SK dodge at all, if it happen to you, call it bad luck.

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well u have to take into account that fighters have horrible hitrate without the hitrate passive and that hitrate decrease debuff that warriors have. But yeah if he takes hitrate passive probably just bad luck. most people complaining about SK wear human craft gear and 0 anti bleed/para/fear and double % crit weapons.

Quote from SHEEN

well u have to take into account that fighters have horrible hitrate without the hitrate passive and that hitrate decrease debuff that warriors have. But yeah if he takes hitrate passive probably just bad luck. most people complaining about SK wear human craft gear and 0 anti bleed/para/fear and double % crit weapons.

Yes indeed.

Plus most of them refuse to wear anti fear or anti bleed at all, cuz of "I'll fk you up" mood.

Plus hitrate passive is must, but mostly is bad luck.

And I get critic's most of time on me, even tho I have 61% anti critic, sometime it feels like that is nothing vs fighters.

Like I said, based on luck.

Who cares if karma dies easily on open environment thé point being 1vs1 where they are broken, anyone dies easily in open environment minus buffed +15 great namek